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both her siblings showed the same chain pattern when i purchased her... so what do u think? pure, cross, or intergrade?

Top View

Side view

Belly shot

Body shot

please share pix of your Goini

~ZF

Hypo brooks X eastern

bottom pic! COOL!

Are you sure?

slant band on the neck.

do you mean the bottom right or top right?
You can't see the head pettern on pic so thats why I asked how you could tell.

TO FUNNY
What are the chances of all those eggs and Mutlly is one of the first two to emerge.

i like the Term Emerge instead of hatch just me.Chris

top view pic, the first two bands are proof, gorgeous eggs BTW!

At a closer look I was able to determine the head pattern..

..and it is definetly Muttly.LOL!

Good eye Jetzen.

That's a great pic, from what i remember his mom is a bumble bee type eastern and dad is a light looking hypo brooks is there a chance we could see a pic of them? thanks in advance.

I thought I had deleted all those pics but this one miracaluosly appeared in a place it shouldn't have been.

Muttlys parents: Slutty and Holmsly
L'Amore

THAT'S A DE-LUX 1.1 !!!! thank you,thank you and thank you.

Too funny
Later Jason

glad your entertained,LOL,here's SWEETIE PIE again, BTW is she a PURE N.Florida eastern or MIXED locality or BOTH?

The mother of your pair has had a really long shed for some reason???? I don't know why. She started to shed last night and it was a bad shed snd she still has some on her. I am going to soak her tonight and get the rest off. If she looks good I will post a pic if not then I won't cuz I don't want you telling "Sweetie Pie" her momma is ugly. LOL E-mail me or give me a call and I will try to explain the locale of the parents.
Snakesunlimited@SbcGlobal.net is my new email incase you don't have it.
Later Jason
772-633-4344 Cell anytime before midnight

thanks and sorry to seem impatient, i crave info on any of my snakes backgrounds and you bet i still have your email addy i also have all the pics of butch and sweetie pies sibs damn that was a gorgeous batch, and i wouldn't dare piss-off sweetie pie she is almost as psycho as "BUTCH" ,lol

If you still got those pics post em cuz I don't have em. My buddy has that killer abberant and I don't even have a pic of it. I am stupid sometimes LOL

YOU bet i'll do that, but i never posted pics from my email archives (i'll get my genius step kid to help me do it, so prolly in a couple weeks)

Come to think about it she does look like your "east brooks" I can't wait to get a pair of those, hopefully everyone won't grab um all before I get at least one (a Hypo)... I'm kicking myself for not jumping all over these when you had um in the classifieds, last season.

Man,you're gonna leave me bankrupt... lol

~ZF

this is like Palientology(spell?)i think that the low land king L.G.Sp.Goini of the pan handle are a late intergrade because of the variablity of almost every individual (ive seen)btw I may be a victim of corruption cause of the specimens ive seen? and or lack of knowledge. so what i say may or (hopefully) not pis anyone Off. because this is an educational forum im hypothisizing.L8r.....Chris btw we just got a nice CHILL here in Miami and feed 2 days ago #$%^&$%^ good nite til L8r

Compare Rainer's (hypo brooksi X eastern) and notice that the lightening of scales in the darker saddle areas are much larger than those of ZF's snake. Rainer's animal is quite a bit lighter in general and ZF - Your snake is darker looking with much smaller looking speckles. It looks like your snake is a speckled king with widely spaced bands every few inches - a very neat & different looking animal! Looks quite striking! (I would expect THAT look since MOST goinis appear darker than most brooksis - Rainer's animal IS indicative of a Brooksi X Eastern because of the broader areas of lightening in each scale)
Rainer's animal is also very handsome but does NOT look like yours ZF! (But I wouldn't mind having either one, but PERSONAL taste leans me towards ZF's animal) Thanks for the NICE pics ZF & Rainer!
MY 1.5 cents,
Hey JETZEN: MUTTLY STILL RULES!

Zee

he is the biggest (that's alive in a collection) somebody please correct me if i'm wrong. MUTTLY is still a pup and i aint power feeding him like i did BuTT uGLy. ANYWAY i'd like to see Rainer get some recognition for producing the best of two worlds in one snake.

Thanks Jetzen. . .As fare as I know, he's the biggest living Kingsnake in captivity so far. . .

Zee

That's what i think. Tho i'm pretty sure there's a lot of private collections that nobody sees pics of, SO who knows?

I think goini are just a variation of L.g.getula. Does anybody agree/disagree.

The blotched phase of goini is pretty much understood to have some degree of goini influence.