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While changing out boxes today she shed so I took a couple of quick pics. I'm really gonna miss this girl.

I was wondering how Corals come about? Is it a certain line of albinos like stripe line? I have been told they are from Breeding Corals to Pastels? Just curious. She is beautiful.

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"Life is a Safari"

She's not a coral but she has lots of color. Certainly more than most of the kahl albinos that I have seen. Not to piss anyone off or start any battles but I believe that if one of the resellers in the classifieds had this snake, she would be offered as a coral. A "B" grade coral at some inflated price. Just my opinion.
thanks
John Q

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Corals are a trait within a certain strain of albino. Because of so many nice albinos, and peopla jacking up prices. There are not as many REAL corals as people may think, out there. If you want one, talk to Pete!

To my understanding even animals that do not show coral coloring, but are from the coral line can produce coral albinos. Please correct me if I am wrong. My main question was are you sure one or both of the parents were not from the coral line?

You would be right, as far as I know, lol.

We will have to wait for the owner to respond about the parents.

My opinion on corals............. When you breed boas, out of a litter you have that one or two....ect..real nice pink colored ones. What I believe the coral is. Is that one or two pink boas that happened to be the albinos. Sort of like the pastels, when you breed two clean, pink boas togather you produce clean, more pink babies.

James W. Arnold

They are selectively bred nice albinos, very different from a genetic strain the Corals.

The Corals come from the Kahl strain. They're not an individual strain of albinos, such as Sharps. If you can produce "corals" from "normal" albinos-such as Pete did, why could this albino not be a coral? I agree with James...these are the "high pink" normal babies in albino skin. If that doesn't make sense to you, look at Jeff Ronnes pastel albinos....they smoke any coral I've seen in person. Increase the amount of pink going into the line, and you should theoretically produce coral type albinos. Basically, I'm saying I'd never buy het for coral albinos at an inflated price because there's no guarantee on getting corals. If I produce a litter of albinos from 2 albino parents, and they coral up, why would they not be coral albinos? This would be no different than what started corals anyway. They're all Kahl strain, not two different genetic lines. Take care

Paul

They are all Kahl strain, but so are Argentine X Colombian albinos that Pete himself produces. I am useing these here as an example. He said that although the Argentine Albinos have "coraling" they are NOT corals. He said how in the past people bought the cross albinos and resold them to people as the genetic Corals.

Coral albino is a genetic trait within a (better to say) bloodline of his albinos, evidently one of the animals originally used to get hets added this.

Everything I have said here I have recieved from Peter Kahl. In regards to his strain of albinos, Corals, and the line genetics. Nothing here is assumtion on my part.

The person who posted the picture says it was NOT a coral, because he understands this. Useing corals doesn't gurantee corals, as you said coral hets doesn't gurantee anything. but useing non coral bloodlines won't give you corals. If it was a coral don't you think he would say so!

The "linebred genetics" I have been referring to is much like the stripe line. We all know how the bloodline gives us prettier albinos with more defined color in their pattern, even with generations of seperation from the stripe gene and no longer carrying the ressesive allele, the "strain" influences phenotype!

"Useing corals doesn't gurantee corals, as you said coral hets doesn't gurantee anything. but useing non coral bloodlines won't give you corals."

Why won't it? Using Corals doesnt' guarantee corals...then what does? Doesn't sound like a very consistent line bred trait. So, how can you say you WON'T produce corals from other bloodlines, and how can you even be sure your "normal" albinos aren't from that bloodline to begin with, especially if Pete isn't for sure where the influence came from. The arg. x col. good point, but it's fairly obvious the pigmentation of the argentine influence manifests itself in "coraling". How would this be different than your "high pink" normal boas appearing as the "corals" in a given litter of albinos? It's like your saying I can breed a pair of het albinos together and produce albinos IDENTICAL to any Coral Pete K. has available, but they won't be Corals unless I bought them from Pete??? And I guess I can only get "true" pastels from Jeff Ronne?

I copied this from Petes site:

The coral albino boas originated from one of my original hetero bloodlines I produced in 1990 or 1991. When I bred hetero's from this bloodline I noticed several of the babies were much more colorful and had a lavender coral color to them. I kept them back and as they grew there color intensified to almost a purple/lavender all over the animal.

In 2000 I bred two coral albinos together all the babies came out coral albinos so I knew at this time it was simple recessive genetics. These F2 babies were even more colorful than the F1 I had produced. I only have a few of these beautiful albinos I'm breeding and I'm raising several from 2000. I'm breeding these into several different boas such as arabesque, striped, jungle, and several others. As adults they are almost completely purple.

That sounds a bit different than Chris' version. Thanks!

Well I am glad that was posted, I guess I should have looked back. My analogy was like a square, they are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. My logic may sound confuseing and i am sorry if it does.