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nutrition page broken

Thera Jul 08, 2003 01:18 PM

Hey the nutrition page at beautifuldragons.com isn't working. It's blank. IS this information posted anywhere else do you know? Thanks

Replies (11)

veronicag Jul 08, 2003 01:41 PM

I just checked on my website and the nutrition page worked fine for me. But I also have the main files on my hard drive for the web page. Sometimes it's hard to know if something isn't working right until someone says something. Please let me know if you continue to have problems. One of my other web pages went down for a few days last week when my AT&T files were converted over to Comcast's servers.

Veronica
Beautiful Dragons

dmlove Jul 08, 2003 03:58 PM

your site is unbeleivable...i go there alllll the time. It mustve taken a lot of time and effort, but i really appreciate it, it gives SOOOO much info!
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~David - KDRKreatures
My Main Herps-
1.2 Bearded dragons (Ralph, Artemis, Cheech)
1.0 Veiled Chameleon (Chiquito)
1.0 Black Racer Snake (Chong)
1.1 Eastern Box Turtles (Athena and Mercury)

KDRKreatures-Home Page
My Email

veronicag Jul 08, 2003 04:09 PM

Yeah, it did take a lot of time... probably around 40 or 50 hours or so. And it's constantly growing! I'm waiting for Comcast to say, "Whoops! Too many megs on this server, better shut beautifuldragons down." Hehe!

I really just enjoy sharing what I've learned. There are some really cool and informative websites out there about bearded dragons. My inspiration came from Gunilla's website. She told me how to get started and what software to invest in. I just fell in love with her website and decided that that's what I had to do. It's really just a labor of love.

Anyways, here I go rambling on again. Thanks for the comps. Glad someone is using the info! Now if I could only get that UVA/UVB research going!

Veronica
Beautiful Dragons

Thera Jul 08, 2003 05:16 PM

you know it might help to see if your server can support php files instead of html files. They're smaller files and can run of the same coding.

I've also noticed that your page ahve a lot of table coding that really is jsut over kill. It's really bulky and makes the HTML files larger than they really need to be. Which is why I was wondering if you code yourself or have a program that writes it for you. A lot of programs that write code for you (like frontpage) add code and use code language that really isn't needed and just makes files larger than need be.

For my server at caudata.org (I'm the webmaster of Caudate Central http://www.caudata.org/caudatecentral/) space is a HUGE issue. Especially with so much of it needed to support the amount of image files needed for our database. Which is why I've been monkeying around with PHP on another one of my pages and figuring out how it works. Saving file space is a BIG issue. That and only using code that is needed.

dmlove Jul 08, 2003 06:16 PM

np
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~David - KDRKreatures
My Main Herps-
1.2 Bearded dragons (Ralph, Artemis, Cheech)
1.0 Veiled Chameleon (Chiquito)
1.0 Black Racer Snake (Chong)
1.1 Eastern Box Turtles (Athena and Mercury)

KDRKreatures-Home Page
My Email

Thera Jul 08, 2003 05:12 PM

it was my ISP... stupid ISP.

Hey you don't mind that I print that off and give it to my babies' new owners right? I've never found anything so helpful in my life when it comes to feeding beardies. I've found that many people don't really know exactly what "greens and vegies" mean.

I also give your URl to my customers at work, they all really appreciate it.

Do you use a webpage creation program or write the HTML coding yourself?

veronicag Jul 09, 2003 10:45 AM

Hello Thera. Believe it or not, this is my first webpage. I purchased the Macromedia Dreamweaver 4.0 program from a friend that gave me a huge discount. It's easy to use and creates some awesome looking web pages.

I don't mind if you print out stuff from my web page, that's exactly why it's there. The copyright info is there to prevent people from copying my info and passing it out as their own work and research. I put a lot of time and work into this project and I just wanted to protect it. I feel honored that you give my info out to your customers.

Veronica

beardiedragon Jul 10, 2003 11:54 AM

Melisa Kaplin move over. This is one of the best sites with the most informative useful info I have seen in a long time. It is fantastic. Thank you for all your hard work. If you dont mind I am going to put a link to your page on my site.
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Bennett
www.beardiedragon.com

dmlove Jul 08, 2003 03:56 PM

A website dedicated to Bearded Dragons & their health ...

Bearded Dragon Nutritional Information

The following information was gathered with the help of the USDA Nutrient Database. The Ca:P represents the ratio of calcium to phosphorus. To provide a balanced diet, the Ca:P ratio must be taken into account, as high levels of phosphorus can block calcium conversion. Most live feeders are high in phosphorus, so the best way to level the playing field is to offer veggies with high Ca:P ratios. If you continually offer foods that are have more phosphorus than calcium then you could have problems later on. This is where a good calcium supplement comes into play. The products I recommend are on the Recommended Products page. Don't forget to add a multi vitamin that isn't high in vitamin A. The ratio of vitamin A to vitamin D to vitamin E should be 100:10:1. I know of one popular "reptile multi-vitamin" that has an A to D ratio of over 600:1 instead of the recommended 100:10! So be careful when picking out your Beardie's vitamins.

The following table will help you decide how many times a week to add supplements to your Beardies diet.

Age or health status of Beardie Multi vitamin Calcium

Less than a year old 4 - 5 x 7 x
1 - 2 years old 3 - 4 x 5 - 6 x
Over 2 years old 2 - 3 x 4 - 5 x
Pre-breeding or gravid 2 - 3 x 5 - 6 x
Sick or emaciated and less than a year old 3 - 4 x 5 - 6 x

Many calcium supplements and multi vitamins contain vitamin D3. Vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol) is essential to calcium metabolism, and is made in the Beardie's skin by contact with sufficient UVB wavelengths. Plants contain another type of vitamin D, called D2 (ergocalciferol). Vitamin D2 is not nearly as efficient (in fact it is really worthless) at metabolizing calcium, hence the need for D3. Research suggests that Beardies may not utilize much or any of the D3 they ingest (as given in a vitamin supplement), only that made by the UVB-skin interaction. Therefore, buying a calcium supplement that contains D3 is not necessary for the calcium metabolism. Products such as Solar Drops and Moon Drops are a waste for Beardies as it misleads people who think that they are making up for the lack of sun or other proper UVB access, and harms the Beardie who ultimately suffers from metabolic bone disease from inadequate calcium being metabolized.

Oxalic acid is just as dangerous as phosphorus because it binds calcium. In other words, it removes calcium from other foods where it would otherwise be. Look in the notes column for high oxalate warnings.

Goitrogens are foods which suppress thyroid function. Goitrogens can induce hypothyroidism and depress thyroidal function. Goitrogens work by interfering with the thyroidal uptake of iodine. Iodine restriction will cause the thyroid to increase in size in an effort to filter more blood to get more iodine. Please see the notes column to find out what foods contain goitrogens.

When freezing green vegetables, especially the leafy greens, the thiamine (vitamin B1) will leach out. When frozen greens are fed over a long period of time and no provision is made for adding the thiamine back into the diet, a deficiency, hypothiaminosis, will occur. This causes tremors and twitches, which resemples MBD. Please see the Health Page for more info on MBD and hypothiaminosis.

Just a note on vitamin C ...Vitamin C is water soluble, just like the B vitamins. This just means that the vitamins are absorbed by water and the extra is excreted in feces. In other words, you can't overdose on these vitamins like you can with vitamin A and D3. The rate at which Beardies use vitamin C is not yet known. Since vitamin C is relatively innocuous (it causes diarrhea at very high doses, such as 5000 g or more per day in humans), supplementation with vitamin C at moderate levels (about 1 mg/kcal) may help Beardies cope with stress and disease.

Please note: Not all of these food items listed below are recommended to feed to your Beardie. Please refer to the color chart below to help you decide what is a good staple to feed on a daily basis, what should be fed on occasion or as a treat, or never fed at all.

Food Chart

Food Chart Key
Green Feed daily, staple
Black Feed occasionally (once a week?)
Blue Feed rarely
Red Never

* Photo is available on Beardie Cuisine Page.

Food Item Ca:P Protein Fat Fiber Water Notes
*Alfalfa (plant) Great staple
Apple (peeled) 1:1.8 .2% .3% 1.9% 85%
Apricot (fresh) 1:1.4 1.4% .4% 2.4% 86% High vit.A (26 IU/g)
*Arugula (raw) 3:1 2.6% .7% 1.6% 92% High vit. A (24 IU/g), bitter flavor
*Asparagus (raw)
1:2.7 2.3% .2% 2.1% 92%
Avocado 1:4 2.1% 17.3% 4.9% 73% High fat and fiber
Banana 1:3.3 1.0% .5% 2.4% 74% High phosphorus
*Basil (fresh) 2.2:1 2.5% .6% 3.9% 90% High vit. A (39 IU/g)
Beans, Garbanzo (canned) 1:2.8 5.0% 1.1% 4.4% 70% Low oxalates (24 ppm)
Beans, Green (canned) 1.4:1 1.2% .1% 1.9% 93% Moderate oxalates (312 ppm)
Beans, Green (raw) 1:1 1.8% .1% 3.4% 90% Moderate oxalates (312 ppm)
Beans, Kidney (canned) 1:3.9 5.2% .3% 3.5% 78% Moderate oxalates (312 ppm)
Beans, Lima (canned) 1:3.5 4.9% .2% 4.8% 77%
Beans, Pinto (canned) 1:2.1 4.9% .8% 4.6% 78%
Beans, Soybeans (canned) 1:2.4 16.6% 9.0% 6.0% 63% Moderate oxalates (770 ppm), goitrogens
Beef (ground, low fat) 1:15.5 26.1% 11.7% 0% 61% High phosphorus and protein
*Beet Greens (fresh) 3:1 1.8% .1% 3.7% 92% High oxalates, high vit. A (61 IU/g)
Beets (canned) 1:1 .9% .1% 1.7% 91% High oxalates (15,000 ppm)
Bell Pepper (green) 1:2 .9% .2% 1.8% 92% Moderate oxalates (1171 ppm)
Bell Pepper (red) 1:2 .9% .2% 2.0% 92% High vit. C (19%), high vit. A (57 IU/g), moderate oxalates (1171 ppm)
Bell Pepper (yellow) 1:2.2 1.0% .2% .9% 92%
Blackberries (fresh) 1.5:1 .7% .4% 5.3% 86% Good source of vit. C (2%) and fiber
Blueberries (fresh) 1:1.6 .7% .4% 2.7% 85%
*Bok Choi (Chinese Cabbage) 2.8:1 1.5% .2% 1.0% 95% High vit. C (5%), high vit. A (30 IU/g), goitrogens
*Borage (raw) 1.75:1 1.8% 0.7% 0% 93% High in potassium.
Bran, Wheat 1:73 15.6% 4.3% 42.8% 10% High phosphorus and fiber (good as a substrate)
Bread, White 1:1 8.2% 3.6% 2.3% 37% Great for hiding meds in
Bread, Whole Wheat 1:3.2 9.7% 4.2% 6.9% 38% Great treat and for hiding meds in
Broccoli (raw) 1:1.4 3.0% .4% 3.0% 91% High vit. C (9%), high oxalates (14:1 ox:cal), goitrogens
*Cabbage, Green (raw) 2:1 1.4% .3% 2.3% 92% High vit. C (3%), goitrogens
Cabbage, Red (raw) 1.2:1 1.4% .3% 2.0% 92% High vit. C (6%), moderate oxalates (350 ppm), goitrogens
*Cactus Pad/Leaf (raw) 2.3:1 .8% .5% unk unk Great staple veggie, high calcium
Cantaloupe (fresh) 1:1.5 .9% .3% .8% 90% High vit. A (32 IU/g)
Carrots (raw) 1:1.7 .8% .5% 1.8% 90% High vit. A (150 IU/g), stalk and leaves are high oxalates (17:1 ox:ca),
Cauliflower (raw) 1:2 2.0% .2% 2.5% 92% Goitrogens
Celery (stalk & leaves) 1.6:1 .8% .1% 1.7% 95% Finely chop
*Chayote 1:1 .8% .1% 1.7% 94% Moderate oxalates (340 ppm)
Cheerios 1:1 11.0% 6.0% 9.0% 3% High vit. D, A, and B vitamins
Cherries (fresh) 1:1.3 1.2% 1.0% 2.3% 81% Great treat
Chicken (cooked) 1:16.7 27.1% 4.1% 0% 68% High phosphorus, high protein (white meat only)
*Chicory 2:1 1.7% .3% 4.0% 92% High calcium & fiber
Chives 1.6:1 3.3% .7% 2.5% 91% High vit. C (6%), high oxalates, high vit.A (44 IU/g)
*Cilantro (Coriander) 1.4:1 2.1% .5% 2.8% 92% High vit. A (40 IU/g), moderate oxalates (50 ppm)
*Clover Great treat
*Collard Greens 14.5:1 2.5% .4% 3.6% 91% Great staple, high calcium, moderate goitrogens
Corn, Yellow 1:13 2.6% 1.0% 2.0% 77% High phosphorus, moderate oxalates (99 ppm)
Cranberries (fresh) 1:1.3 .4% .2% 4.2% 87% High fiber
Cricket (before gut loading) 1:12 21.3% 6.0% 3.2% 70% Gut-load & dust to increase calcium
Cucumber (peeled) 1:1.5 .6% .2% .7% 97% Good source of water, poor nutritional value
*Dahlia (flower) Great treat
*Dandelion Greens 2.8:1 2.7% .7% 3.5% 86% High calcium, high vit. A (140 IU/g), moderate oxalates, be cautious of pesticides in wild greens
Earthworm unk 10.0% 2.0% unk 84% Make sure you know what they were raised on
Egg (whole, hard boiled) 1:3.4 12.6% 10.6% 0% 75%
Eggplant (raw) 1:3 1.0% .2% 2.5% 92% Moderate oxalates (291 ppm), could be toxic to Beardies ???
*Endive 1.9:1 1.3% .2% 3.1% 94% Moderate oxalates, high calcium, mix with other greens
*Escarole High calcium, mix with other greens
*Figs (raw) 2.5:1 .8% .3% 3.3% 79% Great staple fruit, high in calcium and fiber
Grape Leaves (not grape ivy) 4:1 5.6% 2.1% 11.0% 73% High in vit. A (270 IU/g), high calcium & fiber
Grapefruit (fresh) 1.2:1 .6% .1% 0% 91% High vit. C (4%)
Grapes (red & green) 1.4:1 .6% .4% 1.0% 81% Moderate oxalates (34 ppm)
*Guava 1:1.3 .8% .6% 5.4% 86% High fiber & vit. C (18%), moderate oxalates (140 ppm)
*Hibiscus (flower) Great treat
Honeydew (fresh) 1:1.7 .5% .1% .6% 90%
*Kale (raw) 2.4:1 3.3% .7% 2.0% 84% High vit. A (89 IU/g), moderate oxalates, goitrogens
*Kiwi (fresh) 1:1.5 1.0% .4% 3.4% 83% High vit. C (10%)
*Kohlrabi (raw) 1:2 1.7% .1% 3.6% 91% High vit. C (6%), goitrogens
*Leeks (raw) 1.7:1 1.5% .3% 1.8% 83%
*Lemon Grass (Citronella) 1:1.5 1.8% .5% 25.3% 71% High fiber
Lettuce, Loose Leaf 1.4:1 1.3% .2% 1.0% 96% Poor nutritional value, may cause diarrhea
Lettuce, Iceburg 1:1 1.0% .2% 1.4% 96% Poor nutritional value, may cause diarrhea
*Lettuce, Romaine 1:1.3 1.6% .2% 1.7% 95% Poor nutritional value, high vit. A (26 IU/g), high oxalates
*Mango (fresh) 1:1 .5% .3% 1.8% 82% High vit. A (39 IU/g), moderate oxalates (300 ppm)
*Mealworm 1:25 20.3% 12.7% 1.7% 62% Low calcium, high phosphorus & fat, hard chitin shell, wax worms are probably a better choice
Mushroom, Portabella (raw) 1:16.3 2.5% .2% 1.5% 91% High phosphorus, WARNING - some mushrooms can be very toxic to Beardies.
*Mustard Greens 2.4:1 2.7% .2% 3.3% 91% High vit. C (7%), high vit. A (53 IU/g), moderate oxalates (1287 ppm), goitrogens
*Nasturtiums (flowers) Great treat
Nectarine 1:3 .9% .5% 1.6% 86%
*Okra (raw) 1.3:1 2.0% .1% 3.2% 90% Moderate oxalates
Olives (canned, pitted) 29:1 .8% 10.7% 3.2% 80% High in calcium and fat, high vit. E (3%)
Orange, Mandarin 1.4:1 .6% .2% 2.3% 88% Navel oranges have more vit. C and less vit. A
Orange, Navel 2:1 1.0% .1% 2.4% 87% High vit. C (6%), moderate oxalates (87 ppm)
*Papaya (fresh) 5:1 .6% .1% 1.8% 89% Great staple fruit, high calcium, high vit. C (6%)
*Parsley 2.4:1 3.0% .8% 3.3% 88% High oxalates (14:1 ox:ca), high vit. C (13%), high vit. A (51 IU/g)
*Parsnip (raw) 1:2 1.2% .3% 4.9% 80% Moderate oxalates (205 ppm), high fiber
Peach (fresh) 1:2.4 .7% .1% 2.0% 88% Low oxalates (10 ppm), goitrogens
Pear, Asian (fresh) 1:2.8 .5% .2% 3.6% 88% High oxalates
Pear (fresh) 1:1 .4% .4% 2.4% 84% High oxalates
Peas, Green (raw) 1:4.3 5.4% .4% 5.1% 79%
*Peas, Snap (pea & pod) 1:1.2 2.8% .2% 2.6% 89% Moderate oxalates (60 ppm)
*Pepperment Leaves 3.3:1 3.8% .9% 8.0% 79% High vit. C (3%), high vit. A (43 IU/g), high fiber
Pineapple (canned) 2:1 .4% .1% .8% 86% Moderate oxalates (58 ppm)
Pineapple (fresh) 1:1 .4% .4% 1.2% 87% Moderate oxalates (58 ppm)
Pinky Mouse (1-2 days old) 1:1
*Plum (fresh) 1:2.5 .8% .6% 1.5% 85%
*Pomegranate 1:2.7 1.0% .3% .6% 81% Moderate oxalates (140 ppm)
Pork Chop (cooked) 1:7.8 30.2% 8.1% 0% 61%
Potato, Russet (cooked) 1:5 1.7% .1% 1.8% 77% Moderate oxalates (150 ppm), high phosphorus
Potato, Sweet (cooked) 1:1.3 1.7% .3% 1.8% 73% High vit. A (171 IU/g), high oxalates (1000 ppm)
Prunes (canned) 1:1.5 .9% .2% 3.8% 71%
Pumpkin (raw) 1:2 1.0% .1% .5% 92% Moderate oxalates (400 ppm)
*Radicchio 1:2 1.4% .3% .9% 93%
Radish (raw) 1:1 .6% .5% 1.6% 95% Moderate oxalates (92 ppm)
Raisins (seedless) 1:2 3.2% .5% 4.0% 15% Great treat, high fiber
Raspberries (fresh) 2:1 .9% .6% 6.8% 87% Excellent source of fiber & calcium
Rhubarb 6:1 .9% .2% 1.8% 94% Highly toxic! High oxalates (13,360 ppm)
Rice (brown, long grain) 1:8.3 2.6% .9% 1.8% 73% Must be cooked
*Rosemary (fresh) 4.8:1 3.3% 5.9% 4.0% 68% High calcium and fiber.
*Rutabaga (raw) 1:1.2 1.2% .2% 2.5% 90% Goitrogens
Salmon, Pink (canned) 1:1.5 19.8% 6.1% 0% 70% High protein
Sardines (canned) 1:1.3 24.6% 11.5% 0% 60% High protein
Seaweed (Kelp) 4:1 1.7% .6% 1.3% 82% High calcium
*Silkworm 1:1 54.7% 43% unk 76% Great staple
Spaghetti (cooked) 1:7 4.8% .7% 1.7% 66%
*Spearmint 3.3:1 3.3% 0.7% 6.8% 86%
*Spinach 2:1 2.9% .4% 2.7% 92% High in vit. A (67 IU/g), high in oxalates (19:1 ox:ca), goitrogens
Sprouts, Brussel 1:1.6 3.4% .3% 3.8% 86% High vit. C (8%), goitrogens
*Squash, Acorn 1:1 .8% .1% 1.5% 88%
*Squash, Butternut (Winter) 1.5:1 1.0% .1% 11.7% 86% High fiber, high vit. A (78 IU/g)
*Squash, Hubbard 1:1.5 2.0% .5% 8.7% 88% High fiber, high vit. A (54 IU/g)
*Squash, Scallop 1:2 1.2% .2% 3.8% 94%
*Squash, Spaghetti 2:1 .6% .6% 6.9% 92% High calcium and fiber
*Squash, Summer 1:1.8 1.2% .2% 1.9% 94%
*Starfruit (Carambola) 1:4 .5% .4% 2.7% 91% High oxalates (95,800 ppm)
Strawberries (fresh) 1:1.4 .6% .4% 2.3% 92% High vit. C, goitrogens
*Superworms 1:18 17.4% 17.9% 6.8% 60% High phosphorus, dust to increase calcium
*Swiss Chard 1:1 1.8% .2% 1.6% 93% High vit. A (33 IU/g), high oxalates
Swiss Cheese 1.6:1 28.4% 27.5% 0% 37% High vit. D and A
*Thyme 3.8:1 5.6% 1.7% 14% 65% High vit. C (16%)
Tofu (soft, raw) 3.6:1 8.1% 4.8% .3% 85% High protein (hasn't been tested for beardies...?)
Tomato, Red (raw) 1:5 .9% .3% 1.1% 94% Moderate oxalates (263 ppm), acidic
*Turnip (raw) 1:1 .9% .1% 1.8% 92% Moderate oxalates (4:1 ox:ca), goitrogens
*Turnip Greens 4.5:1 1.5% .3% 3.2% 91% High vit. C (6%), high vit. A (76 IU/g)
*Watercress 2:1 2.3% .1% .5% 95% High vit. C (4%), high vit. A (47 IU/g), high oxalates (6:1 ox:ca)
Watermelon 1:1 .6% .4% .5% 92%
*Wax Worms 1:7 15.5% 22.2% 7.7% 62% High phosphorus, dust to increase calcium
Wheat Grass 1:1 25% Very nutritious for reptiles and humans.
Yams (raw) 1:3.2 1.5% .2% 4.1% 70%
Yogurt (with active cultures) 1.3:1 4.4% 1.8% 0% 75% Use to increase "good bacteria" in the gut after using meds to treat parasites, may increase appetite.
*Yucca Root (Cassava) 1:1.7 1.4% .3% 1.8% 60%
Zophobas Worms unk 19.0% 17.0% unk 58%
*Zucchini (raw, peeled) 1:4.4 2.7% .4% 1.1% 93% High phosphorus

* Photo is available on Beardie Cuisine Page.

The following is a list of plants that are known to be safe for Bearded Dragons. This information was found at Melissa Kaplan's website (www.anapsid.org). Remember, when buying plants from a store, you have to replant them and wait 6 to 12 weeks for the pesticides to "grow out" before feeding.

Note: Photos of most of these plants are on the Beardie Cuisine Page.

Plants proven safe for Bearded Dragons:
Alfalfa
Astilbe
Baby's Tears
Chinese Lantern (flowers)
Carnations (petals)
Clover
Dahlia (flowerhead)
Dandelion (leaves, flowerhead)
Day Lilies (flowers)
Dracaena (cornplant)
Ficus (leaves)
Geranium (flowers, leaves)
Grape (leaves, fruit), (not ornamental grape ivys)
Impatients
Johnny-Jump-Up (flowers)
Hibiscus, tropical (flowers, leaves)
Hollyhock (leaves, flowers)
Maple (leaves)
Mesquite (leaves)
Mulberry (leaves)
Nasturtium (flowers, leaves)
Pansies (flowers)
Pea, Green Bean (leaves, pods)
Petunia
Phlox
Pinks (petals)
Pothos (leaves)
Rose (petals)
Spider Plant (leaves, sap may be a skin irritant)
Split-Leaf Philodendron (leaves)
Squash / Zucchini (flowers)
Violets (Not African violets (flowers, leaves)
Wandering Jew (leaves, sap may be a skin irritant)
Yucca (flowers)

The following plants are known to be safe for humans and animals. Whether or not they will agree with your Beardie is unknown at this time. If you decide to try one of the plants listed below, please give only a small amount. Then watch your Beardie closely for the next 24 to 48 hours for any unusual behavior. Chances are that these plants are fine, it just isn't documented at this time. If you have success with any of these plants, please e-mail me and let me know. Documentation has to start somewhere!

Note: Photos of most of these plants are on the Beardie Cuisine Page.

Questionable Plants:
Lavender
Oregano
Rosemary
Sage
Tarragon
Thyme

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~David - KDRKreatures
My Main Herps-
1.2 Bearded dragons (Ralph, Artemis, Cheech)
1.0 Veiled Chameleon (Chiquito)
1.0 Black Racer Snake (Chong)
1.1 Eastern Box Turtles (Athena and Mercury)

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My Email

dmlove Jul 08, 2003 03:57 PM

np
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~David - KDRKreatures
My Main Herps-
1.2 Bearded dragons (Ralph, Artemis, Cheech)
1.0 Veiled Chameleon (Chiquito)
1.0 Black Racer Snake (Chong)
1.1 Eastern Box Turtles (Athena and Mercury)

KDRKreatures-Home Page
My Email

veronicag Jul 08, 2003 04:05 PM

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