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NEW COLOR AND PATTERN MUTATION - BLACK PEARL BOA

mt-reptiles Mar 06, 2005 06:00 PM

Here the first pics of our new color and pattern morph. We called them "Black Pearl Boas".
Please enjoy.




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Thanks Matt

Replies (27)

Trueredtails Mar 06, 2005 06:04 PM

Congrats on proving out the genetics of your new morph. They have a very interesting look to them. I bet they look awsome in person.

-Dylan Keays
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ajfreptiles Mar 06, 2005 06:26 PM

Hey, Those ..I have never heard of before...Please give more info...What produced them? Thanks Andy

lexxxx300 Mar 06, 2005 06:52 PM

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JohnLokken Mar 06, 2005 06:59 PM

Are they any relation to them? Pretty darn cool looking! Good job.
John
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LindaH Mar 06, 2005 07:26 PM

...must be a physic connection, you silly red-head

Really, they do remind me of my Leopards, with much less white and pattern distinction. Actually in some, you can kind of see a faint byzantine type pattern.
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PBM Mar 06, 2005 09:16 PM

That was my immediate thought...look like just born leopards that are in the "dark phase". The detail was hard to make out on the pattern, but from what I could see, they looked like DARK Leopards! Not that it's a bad thing-LOL! Someone was advertising "Leopards, not HJ Winner line" for sale in the classifieds not long ago. Maybe this is the same thing? I wonder if they're compatable if so? Take care!

Paul

Randall_Turner Mar 07, 2005 12:54 AM

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ChrisGilbert Mar 07, 2005 07:50 AM

I thought the same. I didn't want to say anything though. Look below, BTW I think there was confusion, as they couldn't be Costa Rican.

I think something got mixed up going to Germany from Central America. Costa Rica doesn't allow exportation. Aside from Zoocriadero in Grecia, there is no other way to get them.

Here is one of mine:

mt-reptiles Mar 06, 2005 07:12 PM

In 1998 our friend from boanet.de (Frankfurt/Main, Germany) got one Black Pearl baby from a clutch of imported normal looking Costa Rican Boas, a female. The next clutch of the same parents in 2000 gave him also one Black Pearl Baby, this time a male.
This pair was the basis of this new mutation. In 2004 we breed them together and the Black Pearl male also with a normal female to prove out the genetics. In August 2004 we got the clutch of the normal female, all looking quite normal.
6 weeks later we got our first clutch from the Black Pearl female. ALL BABYS ARE BLACK PEARL BOAS. We are very happy about this

Thanks
Matt

ajfreptiles Mar 06, 2005 07:28 PM

I see white in the snake, and I guess that is why the name black pearl...but is there any noticeable red? Could these be the missing link ..the Axanthic boa?? Tell more and please show more pics. Thanks Andy

giantkeeper Mar 06, 2005 08:23 PM

do you have better pics from the top (dorsal), and tails???

ChrisGilbert Mar 07, 2005 07:54 AM

I would back check the lineage of the parental stock. They would be most likely Sonoran. This trait is natural occuring, and was born into a few colonies simultaniously in Germany.

They have since been crossed with other locales of imperator. But they wouldn't be Costa Rican. If so, where did they come from, there is only one source to get Costa Ricans from Costa Rica. F1 from Zoocriadero, Grecia.

Here is one of mine:

vcaruso15 Mar 06, 2005 07:28 PM

np

giantkeeper Mar 06, 2005 10:55 PM

They are what we know as Leopards....
Black Pearl......(Leopard Boa)

PBM Mar 06, 2005 11:03 PM

That this being the case, we don't see the same reaction from people when someone posts pics of their leopard boas???? What a funny world! LOL, take care

Paul

ajfreptiles Mar 07, 2005 01:11 PM

For me, I like the name Black Pearl also...I also thought of a boa that was pure white and jet black. Those Leopards are just too mottled for my likeing. The pattern is too busy. They look OK, but what else can be made of them? You just don't get much info on them. Andy

johnmartino Mar 07, 2005 03:49 PM

Hey Andy, how are you? I actually think that the Leopards are extremely undervalued. I think once people put them into hypos and albinos they are going to look awesome. I think you are going to be some wild looking "RED" snakes. Not to mention what they may look like when crossed to a T . This of course is all speculation but think they will look awesome.

giantkeeper Mar 07, 2005 04:18 PM

I agree that they are undervalued.....for now, but when people see the Ghost Leopards, Hypo Leopards, Albino Leopards, T (plus) Leopards, Anery Leopards, Snow Leopards, and Pastel Leopards...The price will increase dramatically. BTW.... all of these projects are underway, and within 2-3 years, all of the above will be produced.

ectothermz... Mar 07, 2005 06:34 PM

sunglows dude, both strains are going to be outrageous.

giantkeeper Mar 07, 2005 08:23 PM

Sorry!!! :]

PBM Mar 07, 2005 10:20 PM

Like everyone else said, everything else can be done with them. As far as the pattern being too busy, when you get the chance, look over a selection of leopard boas in person. They're so variable, I'm sure you would find a look that suits you. This is one factor of the leopards that I like. Instead of having future litters of babies that for all intents and purposes look identical, there will be many different looks all mixed into one litter. I agree with everyone else as far as them being under rated, but to each their own! I like them as Leopards, and imagine the combos will only add to my happiness with them. As far as the name "black pearl", it makes me think of Pirates-LOL! Aaaargh, where be my black pearl boa? LOL, take care!

Paul

ChrisGilbert Mar 07, 2005 07:55 AM

I kind of like the name Black Pearl better, lol.

Read my other post for some info.

boidmorphs Mar 07, 2005 09:47 AM

Going to the website and checking out these animals pictured as NZ 2004: heterozygot für BlackPearl I have to say the hets have characteristic head markings of Sonoran boas. This doesn't show up in the actual morphs but the hets clearly show it.

ChrisGilbert Mar 07, 2005 02:08 PM

Thats what I was saying, although those I think were crossed to a Colombian. In one of their breeding pictures they show a leopard male to a Colombian female.

Read my other posts in regards to Costa Ricans.
Leopards occured from the Sonoran Locale, semingly a particular group in Germany. Costa Rica doesn't allow collection or exportation of wildlife.

rlocken1 Mar 07, 2005 11:00 PM

I have an idea....I will rename my Leopards to Black Pearl Boas and charge people twice their worth......John you are correct Leopards will only go up in value when other people see what can be produced by crossing other morphs into the leopard!
RL Reptiles

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vcaruso15 Mar 08, 2005 10:35 PM

np

gero Mar 09, 2005 09:02 AM

There are only my 1,1 adult Black Pearl animals, pictures of them and of the babys of 2004 (black and hets) on www.boanet.de. I will take more pictures of the babys and their parents and publish them soon on my website.
Let me please advance an opinion about the discussion to the leopards: the genetic reason for the color- and pattern morph could be the same - I don't know.
I have got the Boas from Costa Rica Boas (imported more than 15 years ago), leopards werde bred from mexicana (Sonora) boas.

Gero
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