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I'm thinning out some of my collection so today I took the ones I'm thinking of parting with outside for some photos. I don't know why I've never taken them outside before but it was very interesting.

I started with one of my female BRBs, I placed her on a tall stump and the fun began. The wind was blowing and for whatever reason she seemed to think it was after her she swung around striking at it and fell off the stump. Then she was off to the races she moved out as fast as she could throwing the front half of her body out for more speed, I will post a photo of what she was doing it's not very good as she was moving and I was trying to stay in front of her. BRBs are not very fast but funny when they get going, she was happy when I picked her up and held onto my arm for dear life till I put her away. Next was her partner I placed him on a large low stump(didn't want any more flying RBs) and he balled right up the big chicken. he lay there for a good five minutes before taking a look around and never moved from the top of the stump.

Next up was one of my female Campina Grande's, I put her on the same low stump and she was very still for a while but then moved around and made her way to the ground. She explored the grass for a while and I got some good photos showing just how much more iridescent they are then the other RBs. She didn't seem to mind being out. I brought out the male CGRB next and put him on the same stump, he like the female was still for a while then began to explore, I got some good shots of him and he even glows more then the female.

I brought out one of my pairs of Guyanan's and these little snakes had a blast they began exploring right off and kept burrowing under the grass as they moved along. A Robin landed near the male and he showed a lot of interest in it when he caught its scent. He lifted his head and then moved low under the grass trying to find it. The Robin noticed him when he got within 3 feet or so and watched him for a second then deciding that it wanted no part of wormzilla took off. The male kept going till he got to where it flew and began searching trying to find it, he just couldn't believe it was gone lol.

After I was done with them I decided to bring out a couple of my Trinidad RBs and get some pictures of them as well. I started with my largest WC female who is the tamest snake I have. I put her on the high stump thinking that other then the first BRB the others had done pretty well. Guess again lol she sat there for a minute then started striking at the air in all directions. I picked her up and she calmed down so I tried it again and she seemed OK and worked her way down the stump giving me some good shots. Next I brought out my CBB female and went to the short stump again, she seemed fine and after a few shots I moved her to the tall one where again she was fine. I brought out my young male next and he was nervous but didn't come unglued, again getting some decent shots of him. Last I brought out my youngest a WC female and she did fine at first but then decided she was heading out. She was going for all she was worth but didn't throw herself like the BRB she was another one happy to be picked up.

It was interesting to watch how each one acted outside and fun to watch the GRBs exploring and trying to hunt, they seemed to enjoy it where some of the others couldn't wait to get back inside. What was strange was the reaction of the CBB BRB and the largest WC TRB females. I could sort of understand the BRB being freaked out but the TRB was in the wild just over a year ago and should know what a breeze is. I'll post a couple photos I would post more but it's a pain resizing them to post here.
Randy

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He just glows

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I don't care if the glass is half full or half empty !
I just want the full glass I paid for !

Here's the little lady, these photos don't look near as nice on this site as they do on my computer lol

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I don't care if the glass is half full or half empty !
I just want the full glass I paid for !

Randy,
...Good PICs of the Campina Grandes. I got another pair of them in trade from Amazon Reptiles the other day. The ones you have and my two pairs and a couple others may be the only ones in the country. Next week I will post some PICs of mine, including close up PICs of their heads. Maybe we can do some scale counting and see if there are any features to identify this subspecies.
Jeff

>>Here's the little lady, these photos don't look near as nice on this site as they do on my computer lol
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>>I don't care if the glass is half full or half empty !
>>I just want the full glass I paid for !

Did you give them some BRB babies, I know they have been looking for them. Between the two of us we must own half the CGRBs in the country lol. I put two of mine together right after the female shed the first of Feb. They were very active but I never saw them do the deed. She is going into shed again and for the first time ever refused a meal the night be for last. Ya never know about these things I have an Emerald that acts gravid, hasn't eaten in almost two months and sits on the heat but she sure doesn't look gravid.

Should do that one of these days have to get some close ups of their heads and bodies, they sure don't hold very still for a scale count. I really like these little guys they are calm and really shine they also seem more active then my other RBs well except for one of my female GRBs who comes out every time I get near her cage begging for food. At night my CGRBs are all over their cages and I've seen them out in the day a few times. I've always wondered why the smaller RBs are not more popular then they are. I like the BRBs but if I had to pick just two subspecies to have they'd be the TRBs and CGRBs with the GRBs as a really close 3rd. These three are smaller and in my opinion more fun to mess with and they do really shine when the light hits them.I think I posted this before but here's another female
Randy

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I don't care if the glass is half full or half empty !
I just want the full glass I paid for !

Nice Campinas.
I really like that stripe running along the front end of the body. Very nice.
Uncloudy

Randy,
....Yes, I did trade some little BRBs for them. Mine are not as big as your female. I do not think they are ready but I am leaving them together in pairs just in case. If your female is gravid and does not eat for a couple weeks it will be real easy to let her crawl through your fingers and you should be able to feel and count the masses. I think Amazon imported 8 or 10 of them at one time and that there may not have been any other ones. If you get babies this year I believe it will be the first US captive breeding. I will email David Fabius and ask about litter sizes. I am thinking that 8 or 10 of them coming in at the same time was likely more than one litter for this small subspecies.
Jeff

>>Did you give them some BRB babies, I know they have been looking for them. Between the two of us we must own half the CGRBs in the country lol. I put two of mine together right after the female shed the first of Feb. They were very active but I never saw them do the deed. She is going into shed again and for the first time ever refused a meal the night be for last. Ya never know about these things I have an Emerald that acts gravid, hasn't eaten in almost two months and sits on the heat but she sure doesn't look gravid.
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>>Should do that one of these days have to get some close ups of their heads and bodies, they sure don't hold very still for a scale count. I really like these little guys they are calm and really shine they also seem more active then my other RBs well except for one of my female GRBs who comes out every time I get near her cage begging for food. At night my CGRBs are all over their cages and I've seen them out in the day a few times. I've always wondered why the smaller RBs are not more popular then they are. I like the BRBs but if I had to pick just two subspecies to have they'd be the TRBs and CGRBs with the GRBs as a really close 3rd. These three are smaller and in my opinion more fun to mess with and they do really shine when the light hits them.I think I posted this before but here's another female
>>Randy
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>>I don't care if the glass is half full or half empty !
>>I just want the full glass I paid for !

>>Randy,
>>....Yes, I did trade some little BRBs for them. Mine are not as big as your female. I do not think they are ready but I am leaving them together in pairs just in case. If your female is gravid and does not eat for a couple weeks it will be real easy to let her crawl through your fingers and you should be able to feel and count the masses. I think Amazon imported 8 or 10 of them at one time and that there may not have been any other ones. If you get babies this year I believe it will be the first US captive breeding. I will email David Fabius and ask about litter sizes. I am thinking that 8 or 10 of them coming in at the same time was likely more than one litter for this small subspecies.
>>Jeff

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that she is gravid, From what I know about them that sounds about right for litter size. I seem to only get small litters anyway, of the three BRB and GRB litters I've had the biggest was 11 now dogs are another thing years ago one of my females had 17!! I've even had twin foals more then once but Rainbows only give me a few lol I'd be happy with just a few out of this girl.

I was trying to do a scale count on one of the males earlier but half way through he'd get wiggly every time. My wife was wondering just what I was doing to That Poor Snake! This from the woman who has a BCI that thinks it's a dog. Have to do some close ups of these guys next week so I can get a count.

I really hate parting with any of my RBs but I have to find a date for this litte 6 year old GEM !

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I don't care if the glass is half full or half empty !
I just want the full glass I paid for !

looks like you got a pair from same person i did have you found any other info on these i dont see anyone else selling or even having them

One pair I got from Amazon the other I got indirectly from the same place. Jeff has a couple of pairs and there are at least a couple more out there. I tried breeding one of my pairs the female just shed the night before last so?? They are young still so no telling. There isn't a lot of info out there on these guys but they are pretty neat little snakes and so far mine have been easy keepers.

Randy

>>looks like you got a pair from same person i did have you found any other info on these i dont see anyone else selling or even having them
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I don't care if the glass is half full or half empty !
I just want the full glass I paid for !

Don't want to throw a spanner in the works but it looks like the male is argentinian rather than campina grande. Not too sure about the female, maybe guyanan. Have a look at www.rainbowboa.co.uk to be sure

mine looks like the others ive seen on the net those pictures are pretty bad to make a comparison by

Gee there would be a few people upset by that as they all came from the same place.. I have both Guyanans and ARBs and they really are pretty different looking and different in build and No Rainbow glows like these little guys do.
The female shed the other day and one of males did yesterday so I'll have to get some more photos next week and post them...

I've seen the site, some interesting stuff there, they are going to post some photos of my CGRBs and TRBs next time they update the site. I've talked to them by email a few times really nice guy....Randy

>>Don't want to throw a spanner in the works but it looks like the male is argentinian rather than campina grande. Not too sure about the female, maybe guyanan. Have a look at www.rainbowboa.co.uk to be sure
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I don't care if the glass is half full or half empty !
I just want the full glass I paid for !

Sorry! Don't want to offend, but the male does not seem to have the stripe running down the side of the neck, and he is more tan coloured with the angular irregular patterning down the side.
His head seems broader behind the eye (which is set quite forward) than would be usual for an ECassisi and the dorsal head stripe is broken like my alvarezis.

I keep ARBs but not GRBs so cannot comment of the female, but either way i'd say they were two different subspecies.

I take it many rainbows in america are wild caught? How does this work? Do they come with locality data?

bobster,
...Most of the Rainbow Boas that are sold in the US are captive born. A look at the CITES records shows 1000 to 1200 Rainbows of all subspecies exported out of South America each year. My guess is that we captive breeders produce around 7,000 to 10,000 Rainbow Boas each year here in the US. Looking at the CITES data I also noticed that the US exports several hundred Rainbow Boas every year. We do get some wild caught Brazilians, Colombians and Guyanans in from the Guyana area. More rarely there are some alvarezi imported. The locality data on these snakes, especially the ones from the area of Guyana is always questionable. My guess is that the politics of the reptile trade results in about the same amount of inaccuracy in locality data there in Europe as we have here. The Campina Grande Rainbows that a couple of us here on the forum have were captive bred by Dr. David Fabius in Uraguay and imported by Amazon Reptile Center in California. As far as I know these are the only Campina Grandes available in the US in many years.
Jeff

>>Sorry! Don't want to offend, but the male does not seem to have the stripe running down the side of the neck, and he is more tan coloured with the angular irregular patterning down the side.
>>His head seems broader behind the eye (which is set quite forward) than would be usual for an ECassisi and the dorsal head stripe is broken like my alvarezis.
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>>I keep ARBs but not GRBs so cannot comment of the female, but either way i'd say they were two different subspecies.
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>>I take it many rainbows in america are wild caught? How does this work? Do they come with locality data?