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Gero, I went to your updated website, I saw the pictures from Costa Rica, the zoo were the U.S. stock is from. I guess we do have a new morph or at the least a Costa Rican morph similar to the Sonoran Leopard.

Costa Rican & Sonoran, and this popping up in several collections in Germany. Possible sure, but likely? Anyways, whichever locality it is, they should be called Leopards. 2 bloodlines, one morph.

Are we yet certain that it is "one morph?" I agree that the similarities between the Black Pearl and Leopard morphs are striking, but have they been test bred? I thought not.
I think further breeding trials will prove or disprove the BlackPearl=Leopard theory.
I hope Black Pearl isn't a new morph, actually, I haven't even got a motley or a T Argentine yet, among countless others.
So many morphs, so little money.
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Jeremy J. Anderson
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Of course it's my opinion, I said it, didn't I?
Breeding season is always just around the corner....JOY!!!

The other day I posted a list of every subspecies, common locale, morph, and cross I could remember. The list is huge! Someone would have to breed Leopard to Black Pearl. While the phenotypes are very closely linked, the genotype will hold the answer.

They are off of the Costa Rican population from Grecia, the same as mine, lol. I hope they are within the bloodline!

Yeah, that's what I was driving at Chris, is that we need to do test breeding to determine if it is the same genotype mutation, or perhaps it is an allele to the leopard mutation! That would be super-confusing for the world at large, and fun.
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Jeremy J. Anderson
snakepimp.com
gemstatereptiles.com
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For people that still don't understand that breeding a Sharp strain to Kahl strain albino will not yeild albino offspring, and who think any abberant boa is a jungle, I think this will leave them all even more confussed and lost.

We do need to test it with the Leopard, but I want to keep both pure if I work with them, as I plan to. The "Black Pearl" was already crossed with Colombian BCI, and the Leopard with other non Sonoran morphs.

The Leopard (Mephisto) was born to three different German breeders around the same time. While there are differences, they are differences similar to variation within the Hans J. Winner line we are common of.

The Black Pearl is a Costa Rican, with very strong evidence to the claim. There are differences in appearance. If the two hold distinct genotypes the second name will be accepted, if they are the same we will have Costa Rican and Sonoran varieties both distinct in locale of origin and the characteristics of each boa in nature.

I guess I do not understand what you are saying?

All I can say is that Im glad it wasn't a black JUNGLE boa lol.

I don,t know whay everyone is really trying to dissprove the black pearl boa, Ive seen many many new boa morphs appear on this forum in the last year that wern't nearly as different and those black boas.

steve

We are not trying to dissprove it, just to find out if it is Sonoran or Costa Rican, a major importance to those like me with interest in maintaining pure animals. With my pair of pure Costa Ricans I would love to add this morph, but only if it is Costa Rican. We also want to find out if the genotypes between the Black Pearl and Leopard are the same or different. The phenotypes are nearly identical, if not exactly the same.

When I am back from my business trip, I'll publish more pics and informations about my boas.

@ giantkeeper:
My boas are neither from H-J. Winner nor from the woman, who poduced the "Mephisto"- Boas. The parents of my Black Pearl Boas were quite normal looking Costa Rica Boas! It is possible, that the genetic reason for the color and pattern morph is the same, I don't know till now.

@ ChrisGilbert:
You are right, I will not breed Black Pearls and Leopards together, I want to keep my Plack Pearls pure!

Gero
boanet.de

Were the Costa Ricans pictured on your photo gallery the parents or siblings to the original Black Pearls? They are identical to mine, the main reason I ask, I love how they look as adults, and can only hope mine have the hidden gene.