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Anyone heard of one? I recently saw a leucistic rat with two distinctly black scales on it's back. Never saw one before or any leucistic with black scales for that matter. Just wondered if anyone else had...?

Thanks,

Bryan
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"Nothing happens in contradiction to nature, only to what we know of it."

There's a post a little way down the page about this. To keep you from having to search through all the different posts about leucistic rat snakes, http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=733886,733886

Thanks for the pointer.

I thought I had stumbled upon something different when I saw this guy at my local pet shop. Oh well :O)

It just surprised me since I had never heard of a paradox lucy other than Scott Felzer's garters.

Thanks again.
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"Nothing happens in contradiction to nature, only to what we know of it."

Paradox Leucistic? According to Dr. Bechtel's book on skin color, what you saw is not all that rare in leucistic snakes.

Bryan,

I have this paradox leucistic as well as a paradox albino bloodline in my collection. These aren't ratsnakes but thought you all would appreciate them just the same.

Scott

Scott Felzer's Garter Snakes

have the best collection of Garters!! As for the flecking in the TX Rat, there are mistakes in the mistakes....I have a Leucistic Monocled Cobra that has one black scale.

Awesome snake!!! What kind is it? I don't understand that fancy name.
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1 Corn Snake (Snakey)
1 Ball Python (Sosa)
1 Pine Snake (not named yet)

Its a leucistic garter snake. But i thought you said she died scott and you only had het leucistics to try to reestablish the morph with?
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0.1.0 Leucistic Texas Rat Snake

Thanks for the kudos. To clarify, she did pass away. She did manage to succesfully breed and have some of her offspring to help carry on her lineage. She was a small example of sirtalis, approximately 20" and passed away shortly after giving birth. The birth seemed to take a lot out of her as she produced around 16 babies, a large quantity for a garter that size.

Scott

Thanks everyone for the info.

After years in the hobby there is always something new to learn!

Scott- thanks for sharing the pic, you have some amazing animals. I've long felt that garters are underrated to say the least.
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"Nothing happens in contradiction to nature, only to what we know of it."

Thanks everyone for the info.

After years in the hobby there is always something new to learn!

Scott- thanks for sharing the pic, you have some amazing animals. I've long felt that garters are underrated to say the least.
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"Nothing happens in contradiction to nature, only to what we know of it."

Thanks for the compliment. Interest in thamnophis has increased dramtically in the past few years. I do agree that they are considered the "low snake on the totem pole" but hopefully they'll work their way up .

Scott

PS Included a pic of a paradox albino eastern

If it is an albino, why don't we see the classic "pink eyes" in the photo? Is this snake anerythristic?

Thanks for your input on this subject. Great photos that you have posted.

This particular albino has very dark red eyes, which was hard to pick up in the photos. This snake is definately albino as it's F1 offspring ultimately produced snows.

Scott

Could that logically then produce "paradox snows"?? It seems that would be the case but perhaps there's more to this mutation than I realize?
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"Nothing happens in contradiction to nature, only to what we know of it."