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Garters I think...

oogleboog86 Mar 16, 2005 08:56 PM

Hello,

This is my first post here and was wondering if someone could help me. I believe these are garter snakes but I am not a 100% sure. If so what kind are they? What do they eat? I put some small feeder fish in a bowl but they dont seem very attractive to them. I caught these in my back yard, I think they were still hibernating. I live east of Dallas, Texas. Oh, they are all about 12" long, how old do you think they are?

Thanks,
Dustin
The Snakes

Replies (6)

wayne13114 Mar 17, 2005 12:21 AM

I beleive they are lined snakes, not sure about eating habits but I think worms. someone will know more about them I'm sure, I'm in NY and usually ID Eastern species but thought I would try some western species
Wayne

Greg Longhurst Mar 17, 2005 05:09 AM

Good job, Dustin! The double row of black half moons on the belly rule out Thamnophis & are a key to Tropidoclonion.

~~Greg~~

oogleboog86 Mar 17, 2005 09:25 AM

OK, so its not a garter or lined snake(I guess thats what you are saying). So what are they, someone on another post said they look like Crayfish Snakes.*I am kinda new with this, sorry.

Thanks for the post,
Dustin

guttersnacks Mar 17, 2005 11:49 AM

What Greg is saying is that they ARE Lined Snakes, so try some earthworms available at your local fishing supply store, if there are any around. I live right on the east coast, so it's a common thing around here.
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Tom
TCJ Herps
"The more people I meet, the more I like my snakes"

oogleboog86 Mar 17, 2005 04:14 PM

Thanks for the info!

(Know wonder they wouldn't eat the fish!) I have researched them and found that they mate in the fall and have babies the following fall. Is there a way to tell if they are pregnat. I have read that they are a threatened species. I would like to breed and release. Also they all have long slinder tail so I am guessing that they are all females. Any other way of knowing?

Thanks Again!!
Dustin

Greg Longhurst Mar 17, 2005 04:54 PM

The only real way to determine sex is by probing. I could show you how it's done, but there's no way I'm gonna attempt to do it in writing. Sorry.

~~Greg~~

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