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Since everyone is Talking Harlequin's ....

sunshineboas Mar 18, 2005 04:20 PM

I have an amazing red and orange normal male harlequin that will be ready to breed by next year. I am planning to cross him to a Ronne line pastel (high orange). My question since I am unsure of the how the Harlequin gene is past is: Since one of the parents is a Harlequin are all the offspring cosidered Harlequin?
I realize that it is not a specific gene, but just a extreme line bred pastel. Or are just half the offspring going to show these traits? I assume being bred to another pastel the babies will all be very similar... Any imput is appreciated...
Thanks
Josh

Replies (10)

ajfreptiles Mar 18, 2005 04:34 PM

Hey Josh.. From what I gathered from the previous websites I posted, the Harlequin trait is co-dominant and will not be present in all the animals of the litter. It kind of resembles the Jungle trait. Pastels are from selective breeding, although the genetic traits can string and produce a stronger trait that can more easily be passed on to future young. Hope this helps. Andy

bcijoe Mar 18, 2005 06:11 PM

Some examples of the Harlequin may share some physical characteristics with some Jungle Boas, but the gene acts moreso in an 'incomplete dominant' way, more like hypos.

Breeding the Harley to the Pastel should yield babies with outrageous color that will ALL have Harlequin blood. Maybe half or more, and possibly less, will display more Harlequin traits such as aberancies, striping, hypomelanism and ultra-pastel-like ground color.

If you take offspring from that litter that show aberrancies and more, you can more than likely produce more of the same. If you take offspring that are the 'normal' babies from the bunch, and breed them to a true normal/common, you will still potentially produce Harlequins, but probably not in extreme form.

I believe only few F3's and F4's exist, and Tim and Brendan are happily sitting on them.
I know i've seen some extreme examples, F3's and F4's, and they are simply unreal! Outrageous.

Because of this I believe this line to be far superior to many others out there, regarding potential.... it just needs to get out there and the work needs to be done! I'm trying to help some!

Take care, Joe


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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

topnotchboas Mar 18, 2005 06:26 PM

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PanamaRed Mar 18, 2005 06:51 PM

A female I have here..


another

BTW.. she's not a harley
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Ed Lilley, www.constrictorsnw.com

bthacker Mar 18, 2005 08:12 PM

I have a feeling she looks way better in person. Not that she doesn't take a good pic!

bcijoe Mar 19, 2005 10:16 AM

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

ChrisGilbert Mar 18, 2005 08:37 PM

That's what I have been told by the Magees!

bthacker Mar 18, 2005 08:48 PM

yes and no to what? I prefer yes to whatever the yes and no is about....LOL

ChrisGilbert Mar 18, 2005 09:01 PM

n/p

sunshineboas Mar 21, 2005 09:10 AM

Thanks it took me forever to get back to the forum crazy weekend...

It makes sense now and I am very excited to work with the harlequin gene.
Thanks again
Josh

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