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I would have to say, as far as the forum goes in 04' it was the CA Super Motley from Alex.

What will it be this year, what "should" be produced this year that gives you goose bumps when you think of it?

To date, I really like the strange patternless boas that were produced, but I think for me, I will wait and stand by the Super Jungle (hopefully soon?).

What do you like?

Chris.

I don't think you can get better then that.

The pink patternless are awesome but I want to see what comes from the purple patternless espcially if it was bred to a hypo Motley;the hypo patternless could be a different pink patternless which could be awesome. Super jungles, better sunglows jaguar hypos etc all remain to be seen. In addition with so many people breeding now we may start to see more spontaneous mutations; every year I hope to see the black eyed white snake.
Bill Kirby

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I am provideing a list of morphs many have never heard of. It is kind of surpriseing.

Super Jungles DO exist, Pete's originals were dominant, and the originator, Jaguar breeding foundation (producer of Jaguar Carpet Pythons) has two pictured on their website, Pete Kahl also has one pictured on his. (So many people say there is no super jungle yet, a super started the animals in the U.S., I am talking about the true Swedish Jungles)

Jeremy Stone's litter with the purple patternless had four super, three purple, and one was a hypo as well as a super motley.

The Pewter, Tracy Barkers private project (none have been sold off of the group), a double homoxygous of Blood and Type II Anerythristic.

And the Bloody Salmon, more commonly known, from Rich Ihle's project.

Also, Sunburst Super Arabesque, Steve Hammond.

Tracy Barker is breeding a Motley to her Tyrosinase Positive Albino this year.

Please correct me if I am wrong

Jeremy produced 2 purple paternless before the litter with the 3 dead purple patternless and one apparent dead hypo. I am interested to see what his living purple patternless produces.

Regarding the Pewter it was my understanding that St.Pierre bred blood x blood and got a litter with 7 bloods and 3 anerys. At the time the thinking was that the bloods were het for anery and that breeding them together would produce the Pewter. In reality those most likely were the first Pewters. I believe that the next Pewters were produced by another breeder and the Barkers then bought the litter and presumably the parents. They have since produced pewters. I don't know if they have all of the other babies from St. Pierre's original litter. To the best of my knowledge it is presumed that the Pewter is homozygous for blood and type II anery but the type II anery part of the genetics has never been proven meaning they weren't originally a cross between a known type II anery and blood to make dhets and then pewters. If they are anerys then adult pewters should have no red color; I haven't seen adult pewters to know what they look like.

A little known morph that I mentioned in another post is the pattern mutation Frank Martin produced last year and called jaguars to avoid confusion with jungles. These appear to be very destictive animals and it will interesting to see them as adults and crossed into other morphs.

Does the Albino Motley have a special name?

I wish Tracy the best of luck with that project.

I am sure there are many other small virtually unknown projects out there that will hopefully begin to emerge in the next few years.

Bill Kirby

Yes I believe Jeremy did produce 2 purple patternlesses earlier. He also had an Albino Motley last year (it was from a breeding that could have produced a Sunglow Motley, due to the way the motley trait affects other genes it is unknown if the animal is a sunglow motley or albino motley, because it is the only one of either in exisstance.)

The Blood and first proven Type II Anerys came from Ron St. Pierre. I do not know much about the Pewters except that Tracy is working with them. She sent me a picture of one next to a Blood sibling and one by itself. She told me they were a combination of the two genotypes, the one she sent me a picture of was silver and black, no brown or yellow (I do not know its age). It was what I would think an axanthic and anerythristic boa would look like, no red or yellow, it is something one would not expect from crossing the blood and type II anery, which makes your theory very likely.

Tracy has only posted pictures of the T positive X Motley pairing. Hets will hopfully come this year.

Chris