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Emory breeding outcomes?

phflame Mar 19, 2005 09:56 PM

If I were to take a hypo emory and breed it to a creamsicle (corn/emory), what would be the outcome? My creamsicle female is coming up to 3 years old in July 2005 and I don't think that she is quite old enough to breed this season and my hypo emory male is coming up to 2 years old about the same time. The creamsicle is about 36 inches long and pretty darn thick, so she is probably big enough to breed, but I want to give her until she is actually three.

I am certainly looking at those beautiful cinnamon emory/corn crosses as desirable outcomes from something that I could maybe put together, just don't know if I have all the necessary genes.

Thanks for any help.
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phflame

Replies (2)

Terry Cox Mar 20, 2005 07:52 AM

>>If I were to take a hypo emory and breed it to a creamsicle (corn/emory), what would be the outcome?>>

First, remember your creamsicle is amelanistic and your male is hypomelanistic. Your babies would all appear normal, but they would be heterozygous for amelanism/hypomelanism. Second, your creamsicle is already part emoryi, although that could be a smallish percentage, not knowing the heritage. Your outcome would be bt. 50-75% on the emoryi side.

>>I am certainly looking at those beautiful cinnamon emory/corn crosses as desirable outcomes from something that I could maybe put together, just don't know if I have all the necessary genes.>>phflame

Whenever you create something new you take some chance as to the outcome. My rootbeer is different looking from most of the others because I used a Great Plains rat from s. TX. The number of mutations carried will also help determine color. Yours will have hypo and amel. Finally, my root beer is a 50/50 combination Great Plains rat and corn, and has equal amt. of characteristics from each ssps...

Now, to get a cinnamon, your snake has to "express" the hypo gene. That means you have to breed a second time. You can pair up two het sibs, or you can cross your root beer to some other hypo snake, such as the original hypo you made the root beers with. In my case I'm going to pair my root beer with another hypo corn. This will result in 50% cinnamons, which will be 75% corn. But, I'm going to also pair sibling root beers to get some cinnamons that are 50-50, GP rat/corn.

Hope that made sense. Good luck with the project.

TC

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Terry Cox Mar 20, 2005 08:01 AM

...to say that my "root beer" is het. for hypomelanism.

>>Whenever you create something new you take some chance as to the outcome. My rootbeer is different looking from most of the others because I used a Great Plains rat from s. TX. The number of mutations carried will also help determine color. Yours will have hypo and amel. Finally, my root beer is a 50/50 combination Great Plains rat and corn, and has equal amt. of characteristics from each ssps...
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My root beer is also het for hypomelanism

TC

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