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i have a friend who said he found one in state park and i did not beleave him i have been go to the same park for 10 years and never saw one or a skin of one. i showed them pic of black racer and any other snake it could be but when he saw apic of a black pine he said thats it but i live to south for a pure black pine so it could be a intergrade but still i have herd that they are real rare what are the chances that it was a pine.
PS its a big park ,5000acers big

thanks for anying info
4snakes

You weren't very clear were he saw it? Maybe give a few more details.
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1.0 white sided bull
1.0 hypo bull
0.1 stillwater. Ok hypo
0.1 stillwater. Ok hypo 25% red
1.0 axathic (thanks jcherry)

the area were he saw it or though he saw it was high lands,pine woods, hardwoods, so the area could have one but i was thinking that they are so rare that it couldn't have been a pine snake.
4snakes

OK lets try this again. Your original post says something about a black pine but the header says Fl pine. You mention a black racer as a possible animal that your friend saw. Why??? And as far as the area of where, we would need a state and a general region of that state. If it is Florida than where North South Central East West. It is a big state. If you are thinking Black pine then Fl is a few hundred miles away from them. So in other words be more generically specific if you don't want to give the name of the park. But for the record if most of the people who post on here wanted a location for Fl Pine hunting they would have the resorces to get very specific locale data.
As far as rareity I know of a guy in Central Fl that found three in his yard in a week last spring and another guy who does rescues that gets 2-3 a year in one neighborhood. At the same time I never saw a wild pine myself and I hunted 100X more than both guys combined. It is really being in the right place at the right time.
Later Jason

I have to agreee with the above poster, Fl. Pines in the right area are not that uncommon. But due to so much habitat degradation and human intrusion any large snake is at risk in Florida. Personally I have collected three from the Ocala area in three separate trips years ago. I found them, but over the years and during those trips when I have collectted florida, I have till yet to see a live corn. Fiqure that. Everyone else collectted corns like they were going out of style and I never saw one myself. But we did find the pines, several indigo and 5 blotched kings on those same three trips.

John Cherry
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