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Question about Brian Grieg Fry's Snake Venom Research, article included......

Thamnophile Mar 22, 2005 12:34 PM

Hi,

I don't normally post in the venomous forums, but I read with great interest media stories about Dr. Fry's venom research involving colubrids as well as venomous snakes.

Every article I have read, has included a listing of snake body organs that proteins have been recruited from, in order to produce venom.

This listing in every article, has included *mammary gland* as one of the organs proteins have been recruited from.

Now, the obvious question, that only myself and one or two other hobbyists I've talked to have even noticed, is regarding snakes having *mammary glands*.

I can only assume that this is something the media erroneously picked up and repeated.

Or is there more to the story (some sort of vestigial organ, perhaps)? I know that BGF posted on these forums, and has many friends here.

Hopefully, he or someone here in the know, can either confirm a media mistake, or clarify the info.

Included below is one such article with this info. Thanks in advance.

Lisa
Living Earth Environmental Education
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Study Shows Snake Venom's Hisstory
-- Dennis Thompson

MONDAY, Feb. 28 (HealthDay News) -- Snake venom is one of nature's most sophisticated bioweapons, containing toxins that cause their victims' bodies to turn against themselves.

Now scientists have found the reason why these poisons are so potent: They're made of altered proteins from body tissues located throughout the snake's body.

The findings might even help researchers someday turn deadly venoms into lifesaving medicines.

The new study, published in the March issue of Genome Research, provides the first comprehensive analysis of the origin and evolution of snake venoms.

Research conducted by Bryan Grieg Fry, of the University of Melbourne, Australia, has identified the origin of all 24 known types of snake toxin.

Although snake venom is transferred through bites, scientists have doubted the venoms are saliva-based. Instead, the theory was that snakes recruit and alter proteins for their chemical arsenal from other body tissues.

Fry's research has proven that point, demonstrating that 21 of the 24 known venoms are derived from proteins normally expressed in other body tissues. The identified origin tissues are found in the brain, eye, lung, heart, liver, muscle, mammary gland, ovary and testis of snakes.

Of the three remaining venoms, two toxin types are derived from proteins presumably expressed in ancient reptile saliva, while the third did not exhibit any similarity to known proteins.

"The wide-ranging origins of snake venom toxin from body counterparts explains the amazing diversity of ways that venomous snakes can kill their prey and why they have so much potential use in medical research," Fry said.

Fry hopes his findings will aid research focused on the use of snake toxins for therapy and treatment of diseases, including cancer, arthritis and heart disease.

"The natural pharmacology that exists within animal venoms is a tremendous resource waiting to be tapped," he said.

Venom-based research may already be bearing fruit. In August, scientists at Wake Forest University used a protein in snake venom to help elucidate why heart medications called integrin antagonists can sometimes cause patients more harm than good.

Replies (3)

joeysgreen Mar 23, 2005 04:03 AM

I havn't come across this on Brian's site, but reptiles do not have a mammary gland of any kind, nor have they ever.

There are many glands that they could have mixed up, but shall I guess that it's the shell gland (proper name I can't remember) that they are talking about?

BGF Mar 24, 2005 02:50 AM

Those statements aren't to imply that the protein was recruited from that location of the snake. Rather, its referring to the fact that many of these proteins are expressed in more than one tissue type. What makes them attractive to the snakes is their versatility. This is also what makes them attractive to us. CRISP proteins for example are expressed in a tremendous diversity of tissues and locations. From saliva to epididymus. So, the reference to mammary gland would have been referring to where a related protein type was expressed. Looking at all the various tissues a protein type is expressed in and seeing the diversity of activities, that is all good information about the evolution of that protein type as a whole.

Cheers
Bryan
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Dr. Bryan Grieg Fry
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Australian Venom Research Unit,
University of Melbourne
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Population and Evolutionary Genetics Unit,
Museum Victoria
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http://www.venomdoc.com

joeysgreen Mar 25, 2005 01:01 AM

However I'm a bit unclear. Are you saying that you find a type of protein in different tissues, in different species, and then put all this data into an evolutionary hypothesis about that protein?

The whole idea that snake venom components are taken from all around the body is very cool!

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