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My saharans are getting at it again!

Very Cool, hope this leads to many little pitter, pattering feet and tails !
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PHEve / Eve

Very, very cool!!!!! Hopefully you will have little baby saharans!!!!! If you do not know already, gravid saharan females
typically scatter their eggs all over, versus laying them in one spot as beardies do. I know this is thinking down the road.......LOL That is very awesome! I have an adult male that is waitng for the arrival of his "playmate," which will be soon! :0)

Greg

Greg,

You wrote: "gravid saharan females typically scatter their eggs all over, versus laying them in one spot as beardies do"

My female geyri tend to deposit their eggs in one location in a nest box. I have personally witnessed three geyri egg laying sessions (couldn’t think of a better word) and watched as the female would deposit the egg (at the bottom of a slope she dug) then gently slide sand back (swinging from the side) with each back foot to cover the egg. The female then proceeds to lay the next egg in the same location (inching forward slightly) following the same routine. My females exhibit a pattern of behavior similar to crocodiles where they are in an almost trance like state during egg laying and use the back feet to gently cover the eggs.

I had one female that refused to use a next box and even though she laid her eggs in the substrate, they were localized to one area. I can honestly say that none of my geyri have scattered their eggs all over. I am not saying this can’t happen, I just do not believe that this is a common occurrence with all female geyri.

This is a guess here but maybe scattering is due to an improper nest box or some other environmental stressor?

I have two geyri clutches due in the very near future and would be happy to let you know if this pattern of behavior changes.

I had a fertile clutch earlier this week from a different species of uromastyx that followed the exact same routine as my female geyri. The eggs were laid in one central location in the nest box and the female gently covered each egg after laying it.

Congrats on the uro eggs Deb! I agree with aspects of an improper nest box, very true. That is awesome yours located them in one location. I had 2 females a few years back that just dropped them as they walked. Proper nest boxes and all.
I actually was speaking with Lindsay Pike a bit ago and it was funny, we were talking about this same topic, about being quick in gathering their eggs before getting trampled. That is awesome again how yours are "regulated" and specific in their nesting boxes... ) Please keep us posted on your new ones!!! I miss the little saharans and we need more CB ones, versus importations. I unfortunately had to give up my collection approx 2 yrs. ago and now am jumping back into it....and gladly too!

Take care!

Greg

Debb-

I would be interested in hearing how your ladies do with their egg laying. One thing mentioned to me is that some Saharan females will scatter their first clutch, then bury them properly with later clutches. My female laid her first (and only) clutch in the substrate in the front part of the tank on the cool side, completely ignoring the nest box. Perhaps my nest box building isn't to her liking. Or maybe she'll do better next time.

Do you (or anyone else) know if uros will lay a second clutch from the same mating a few weeks after laying the first one? I'm completely inexperienced in this, and I want to be prepared if another round of eggs is on the way!

Thanks!
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Torey
Eugene, Oregon, USA
1.1 Uromastyx geyri (Joe and Arthur)
3.0 Uromastyx dispar maliensis (Tank, Turtle, and Spike)
1.0 Uromastyx ornata (Scuttlebutt)
2.1 Anolis carolinensis (Bowser, Sprocket, and Leeloo)
0.1 African dwarf frog (Sheila)
1.0 Betta splendens (Mr. Miagi)
1.1 Felis domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)

Torey,

I have heard of some uromastyx laying a few eggs and then days or a week later laying the remainder. I have not witnessed this in any of my animals nor do I know what causes the delay. I have heard from others that some or all of the eggs are usually infertile when this occurs. I have no idea whether there is any validity to this statement. How many eggs did your female have and does she appear gravid? Can you palpate any eggs in her now?

Double clutching usually takes place months apart and is unusual in uromastyx. I believe that Doug has had several uromastyx double clutch. I actually thought that one of my females was gravid with a second clutch last summer but she never produced so I was evidently wrong.

Thanks, Debb-

No, she doesn't look particularly large or lumpy, but rather back to her healthy round weight. I almost never handle her, so I haven't checked for eggs. I was kind of hoping for a second clutch, but it doesn't sound like it will happen. She laid 10 eggs, 8 of which appeared fertile, though I lost them due to my own inexperience.
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Torey
Eugene, Oregon, USA
1.1 Uromastyx geyri (Joe and Arthur)
3.0 Uromastyx dispar maliensis (Tank, Turtle, and Spike)
1.0 Uromastyx ornata (Scuttlebutt)
2.1 Anolis carolinensis (Bowser, Sprocket, and Leeloo)
0.1 African dwarf frog (Sheila)
1.0 Betta splendens (Mr. Miagi)
1.1 Felis domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)

so this may be a stupid question, but what color will the babies be, like do some come out red and some yellow or does it blend?
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vonnie
***There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it. Mary Wilson Little ***

Last season my saharans produced 15 beautiful offspring.(the pair pictured in my previous post)Yellow seemed to be the dominant colour even though they sarted out looking quite orange.

Wow, with that red of a female, and the yellow male, you may get some of the rarer yellow/red dominant babies, like my Rocky! Good luck.

Jim
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2.1 - Rocky, Runako, and RoxyIII (my care sheets)

Best of luck to you and the lizard lovers! May you produce many healthy, beautiful babies!
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Torey
Eugene, Oregon, USA
1.1 Uromastyx geyri (Joe and Arthur)
3.0 Uromastyx dispar maliensis (Tank, Turtle, and Spike)
1.0 Uromastyx ornata (Scuttlebutt)
2.1 Anolis carolinensis (Bowser, Sprocket, and Leeloo)
0.1 African dwarf frog (Sheila)
1.0 Betta splendens (Mr. Miagi)
1.1 Felis domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)

Good luck! They will make beautiful babies with that coloring!!!
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150-200 tropical fish

3 African Clawed Frogs (1 olive and 2 albino)

and Luca will be here soon... male Ornate Uromastyx

- Mike
Morris Cty, NJ

- in memory of Magnus (male Uromastyx Macfadyeni)
he will always be my little boy