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Got them sexed today and...

Ben_Renick Mar 24, 2005 11:02 PM

Turns out, both of the condas were sexed wrong. My green anaconda is a male, and apparently has very nice sized spurs, which is why I took it in to be sure. The Green X Yellow is a female, and of course was very sweet about the whole situation. Which is basically me asking, why am I the only one that gets bit?lol. Luckly it barely got me, but it drew a nice amount of blood. I know this has been asked proably a lot before, but about breeding sizes. I'm seriously not wanting to put these anacondas together ever, because of temperment differences and the big one snaps at anything that comes in the cage... I know the male isn't big enough, so that would be like between 10-11 ft? And the female 10-11 ft? Both are very fat and will deffidently be at a good weight by that length.
~Ben R.

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Savvgawd Mar 25, 2005 12:44 AM

I hope you don't plan to breed your cross. I can't say I'm for or against hybrids, but I know I am against breeding them constantly. The only thing that can come from that is generations and generations of un pure snake mixes, kinda sucks.

Ben_renick Mar 25, 2005 09:17 AM

Don't worry, in most cases I'm not going to breed them and if I do, I'm not doing it for money or anything, just my own enjoyment to breed them, I would be very cautious to whom I sell them to, people that are in it for the pet prospect of it, not the breeding.

CrazyCodyKadunk Mar 25, 2005 10:07 AM

Ben u can not breed the cross. the conda crosses are steral and can not be breed. there not like bateatters that can be bred back to one of the original species. there like mules.

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Ben_Renick Mar 25, 2005 03:25 PM

Thank you Cody, I'm glad you told me, otherwise, it could have been a pretty ugly mistake I suppose. Just out of curiosity, how did you find out that Green x Yellow condas are sterile? Also, I'm curious as to why they would turn out to be sterile, especially a female one, males it's a little more understandable, because their sperm plugs could be outta-whack, but I'm curious as to why females wouldn't be able to. It's interesting that 2 snakes bred together could produce something that cannot be bred.

~Ben R.

CrazyCodyKadunk Mar 25, 2005 04:54 PM

i new some people that did some research on hybrids. they found out that yellow and green anacondas are geneticly to far apart for them to breed. there sexual orgins are not developed in the same way or some thing and can have young.

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Ben_Renick Mar 25, 2005 05:06 PM

Do you know what their sources were? Because I would actually love to look up more information on hybrid condas.
~Ben R.

CrazyCodyKadunk Mar 25, 2005 05:15 PM

they had a hand full of yellows hand full of greens and a hand full of hybrids. they tryed breeding everything to each other. when nothing came out they disected the hybrids and found there repreductive orgins were not corrct or some thing. i have not talked to them in years and they did this a while back in the 90s.

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00235020 Mar 29, 2005 04:55 PM

Very interesting! I don't know much about the genetics involved in green X yellow condas. But I do know in some cases the offspring of 2 different species are sterile! This is the case with-

"All are REAL" -check out the web
horses X donkeys = Mule (sterile)
Donkey X Zebra = Zedonk (sterile)
Lion X Tiger = Liger (sterile)
Tiger X Lion = Tigon (mostly sterile few have been breed)

There are more but thats a start.

I too would be very interested to see the data in regards to the green x yellow cross. I would be surpised to find they can't breed but who knows. I would say it would be worth the try. I know the Tigon breed back to a male Tiger has had a little sucess.

Let me know how it goes!!

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Edited on March 30, 2005 at 13:55:26 by phwyvern.

eunectes4 Mar 30, 2005 10:01 AM

In the case of tigons, ligers, pumapards, leopons, etc... it is usually only males which are sterile and success in breeding back to male tigers, lions, etc has a lot of success actually (as far as percentages they have when compared to times they actually mate). Thus you get the ti-tigons, li-ligers, ti-ligers, etc. This holds true in many mammal species and I believe some of the animals you listed above do indeed have more fertile females than given credit (I have not looked into it very deeply for donkeys but I have written papers on this topic). I would be willing to bet the "fertility" in reptiles exceeds this actually but I would be curious to find out as well.

Kelly_Haller Mar 25, 2005 12:38 PM

Ben,
Any male green over 8 feet or older than 3 years would typically be sexually mature. Female greens have produced young at 4 years of age with good body mass, however that is exceptional. I would personally not attempt to breed a female green under 11 feet and at least 5 years of age.

Kelly

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