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What other types of snakes could I look into getting that have similar traits as an eastern indigo. .. such as the length/size and colors

Black Milksnakes are another big black docile snake. They don't have the same personality as indigos, but they are big black snakes.
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Chris Harrison

I tend to favor the PITUOPHIS as they are :

a) Good sized for the most part, with good girth.

b) Mouse/Rat feeders Chick also

c) Spirited bluffers and sometimes non bluffers

d)Fairly inexpensive considering what you get.

e) I recommend the black pine snake. Very commanding. Very macho.

f)Stinky with fairly loose stools(Sorry pit guys but it is true)

God Bless Yah,

Fred Albury

So,there you have it, go forth and buy black pine snakes, and get the best looking ones that money can afford.

I think you should take Freds advice.Pits are great and easy to get manetane.Oh they do stink when they crap no dout but so do drys sometimes.

Drys smell "sometimes"???????
They only smell if it's day or night......
Chuck

You can look at black pines....they get big and beefy, but some of them can be quite volatile....however, some are quite docile and never object to being handled...In a "high quality" black pine, the entire snake will be black with little to no discernable pattern...There may be some white flecking on the chin, but that's about it....

I love black pines! They can get 6 ft long, have plenty of personality and are easily kept....Plus, in the majority of states you don't have to worry about not being able to legally keep them...(unless you live in Alabama or Mississippi). Plus, they are quite a bit more affordable than an indigo (approx 120.00 for a cb baby vs. approx 500.00-600.00 for a cb baby indigo)

-With a fistful of steel,
-AzAtrox

As AzAtrox said: Black Pines are the schiznitt!

A good, healthy well fed and pissed off black pine is a truly impressive snake. They range in colration according to breeding lines that are worked with for black color. Man, wish I HAD SOME.

God Bless

Fred Albury

Black pines are awesome. I recently sold my pair of 7 footers! Heres a pic of one of them. Nobody has mentined Texas or Mexican Indigos as a substitute for Eastern Indigos. Ron

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The Crawl Space

black pine

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The Crawl Space

The answer is... NOTHING. Nothing on earth has the traits or characteristics of an Eastern Indigo (except, if you happen to be blind, a Unicolor will do).

Save your money, put up with the permit process, buy an Eastern. You will have an animal that is unmatchable in every way.

Robert Bruce.

But in general he is right..Texas Indies are, IMO, identical when you can get the dark blue, no speckeling ones..Even more colorful on the throat..(But the shine IS different)..The others mentioned above are all wonderful animals, especially the black pines, but they aren't Indies..Just my 2 sense..
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Carl W Gossett
Garage Door Herps
Monument,Colorado...northern territory of the Great Republic of Texas

Well you got lots of answers, most of which were pits or other drys. How about Black Head Pythons? I know they are pricey but they act a lot like Easterns and they have nice solid feces.
Chuck

Black heads are very calm, friendly and intelligent, but what I don't like about them is the same as what I don't like about the solid black form of Eastern Indigos. Since their eyes are solid black, the same color as the scales on their head, you can't tell where they are looking. With black heads, I find it hard even to see their eyes at all. With red throat Easterns, you can see where they are looking because their irises are red with black pupils. Seeing the snake(s) gazing at me all the time, and making that eye contact, is cool. I have no idea where black heads are looking, and it is difficult with solid black Easterns as well.

Another thing I don't like about black heads is that their body is the shape of a giant earthworm. The silhouette of their head is not distinguished from that of their body. In fact, it almost looks like a snake with it's head just chopped off, and still squirming around.

Black heads are around $1,000 each (if I am right) so there is no saving money compared to an Indigo. I have a feeling the person starting this thread might have been looking not to spend big bucks on an Indigo.

Chuck, do you remember when Dick Price was selling black heads for $10,000 each?

Robert Bruce.

Robert
I remember them costing an arm and a leg. And that's if you could even find one. I have a friend that has been very successful in breeding them lately. That's part of my reason for mentioning them. I may end up with a pair. We'll see what happens. Hope to be able to come up and see you soon.
Chuck