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Not in great shape.

Herp-Keeper Mar 28, 2005 09:46 AM

Hey
I have this uro, unsexed, think it's a male though. There's been a bit of aggression issues between this one and the other male. It's skin's also not shedding properly. After i help it with that what do you think i should do? It doesn't look great.

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jaffar311 Mar 28, 2005 10:02 AM

Give him a soak in shallow (1/2 inch deep) hot water (as hot as you can keep you hand in) every few days to let him drink until he is eating well for you. The only interaction I would recommend is taking him out of the cage to soak. You do have him seperated from the other one right? If not, start there.
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1.1 Ornates (Lindsay Pike)(Doug Dix)
0.0.1 Mali
0.1 Weimaraner

Herp-Keeper Mar 28, 2005 10:20 AM

Hey jaffar311,
I dont get it,
If i put him/her in water that deep and that HOOOOOT for even a few minutes, wont that burn the uro?and are youtelling me to let her/him drink it? Can you please clarify this for me? Im not quite sure i understand.

Triad Mar 29, 2005 09:14 AM

>>Hey jaffar311,
>>I dont get it,
>>If i put him/her in water that deep and that HOOOOOT for even a few minutes, wont that burn the uro?and are youtelling me to let her/him drink it? Can you please clarify this for me? Im not quite sure i understand.

When I got my saharans from Doug Dix over the summer this is what he told me:

Take each one out by hand, get the water as hot as possible, but make sure your hand can stand it, if it can't then its too hot. Then soak each one for 15 minutes because they may be lethargic from the transportation. Try rubbing your finger that has water on it along the uro's mouth, that might get the uro to start drinking. Let it drink some water.

Then take it out and make sure they are dry before putting them in their new home.

The heat helps them get their body temperature back up to where it should be since they have been tranported. It helps bring them around and it also helps stimulate appetite.

The other thing I suggest is mineral oil, the oil you can use to clean dogs ears and help keep their razor oiled (when you shave a dog, the automatic razor's).

You can use it on their spikes and on their back. Put some mineral oil on a cotton ball or a paper towel and just set it on their back for a couple of seconds, let it soak in for a little bit. Then try to gently rub the shed off, if it doesn't wanna move, don't force it.

Keep him well hydrated because that'll also help with the shed process.
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2 Mali Uromastyx-Ares & Apollo
2 Bearded Dragons- Draco & Hades
0.1.1 Leopard Gecko's-Kalypso & Phoenix
1 Tokay Gecko-Sid Vicious
1 Tarantula-Peter Parker
1 Amazon Red Head Parrot-Pancho
1 African Gray Parrot-Keya
1 Dog-Cheeka
1 Zebra Finch-Beeps

debb_luvs_uros Mar 28, 2005 10:33 AM

Of course this uromastyx is not in good shape-

You posted on another forum that you house three uromastyx together and that your female used to grab the tip of the males tail and swing it back and forth until it bled. In February you mentioned that your animals were still housed together and that the male was now tugging on the tip of the female’s tail even harder and it is bleeding and flesh is exposed. A month later you post again indicating this is still happening and now on KS you post some photos of an injured uromastyx. Why should the animal be in good shape at this point? If I am correct, you JUST temporarily separated these animals but the aggression has been going on for over six months. I would suggest that you purchase another enclosure to permanently keep these animals apart or give one (or all) away to a good home. Enough is enough and at this point, I feel this borders on abuse.

Herp-Keeper Mar 28, 2005 10:38 AM

Hey,
You just said, "If i am correct........................." which in this case you are NOT correct. I have seperated them several times before, this must be the third time, maybe fourth. Last time i seperated the "female" and then let her tail heal and put her back in and they were O.K for a while. But now as you can see they are not O.K. Also, about her skin not shedding, not sure why that's happening but i gave her a bath today. Right after the bath she seemed to be more awake than before it. But the skin'd not coming off.

frye Mar 28, 2005 11:08 AM

You are not going to be able to keep putting them back together they need to be kept separated for their own safety and health. If you don't have the equipment (I know it is expensive) for second tank maybe you know someone that does and would be able to give a uro a home.

esoteric Mar 28, 2005 11:12 AM

"I have seperated them several times before, this must be the third time, maybe fourth."

I think the part of the idea that you're missing involves permanent separation. Permanance doesn't involve a second, third, or maybe fourth time, tomorrow, next week, or next month, it involves two distinctly independant permanent enclosures (separate). This has been consistent advice and any other advice, given only a partial story and partial information, will only be a partial stopgap until the animal deteriorates far enough that the only separation necessary will be in a plastic bag.
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2.4.0 uromastyx geyri (Saharan/Nigerian)
0.0.4 uromastyx hardwickii (Indian)
2.3.0 uromastyx macfadyeni (Somalian)
1.3.0 uromastyx ocellata (Sudanese)
"Yes, it's a problem. No, I don't want to talk about it."

debb_luvs_uros Mar 28, 2005 11:21 AM

Even if this is the third or fourth time of separating... how many times do you need to see bleeding and exposed flesh to get the idea that these two uromastyx should not be placed back together?

In my opinion, there is absolutely no reason that an animal should get to this condition when you are fully aware that an aggression problem between two animals already exits.

Herp-Keeper Mar 28, 2005 12:18 PM

K,
I appreciate the advice of everyone so far who has helped me through this thing with the aggressive uros. I am now going to finally take your advice and permanently seperate them until i can find a new, better home for it. I now do realize that seperating them several times isn't a good idea, i don't know why i was doing that.

spook Mar 28, 2005 02:46 PM

I'm taking all bets on this one!

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