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gravid question

shhawke Mar 30, 2005 08:29 AM

ok i have been in most of the room and i have noticed people refering to gravid as in heat and as pregnant...

the way i was explained it its when she is in heat... is that correct??

shiloh

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lexxxx300 Mar 30, 2005 09:49 AM

and the word heat I've never heard being used with snakes just dogs and cats.

shhawke Mar 30, 2005 09:52 AM

i was using the word as a figure of speach..

i grew up breading chememeons and everything i was tought about terms i learned their and i was tought that gravid ment she was ready to breed... or in heat...

i'm just trying to figure out if people have different understanding on the word or i was just misunderstanding the word...

shiloh

giantkeeper Mar 30, 2005 10:07 AM

Pregnant with live bearing animals (boas, vipers, people), and gravid with egg bearing animals (pythons, chams, colubrids).

Also, litter would be used for boa babies been born. IE; this litter was born yesterday. And for egg layers it would be clutch.
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bthacker Mar 30, 2005 10:12 AM

Boas are ovoviviparous so I think it does apply to Boas, Vipers as well. Maybe I am wrong but that's what I always thought.

giantkeeper Mar 30, 2005 10:21 AM

my point still remains the same, they are born live, and not in a shell.....thanks for pointing that out.
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bthacker Mar 30, 2005 11:04 AM

their membrane sack is considered an egg from what I was told.

giantkeeper Mar 30, 2005 11:15 AM

Regardless of a membrane or not, the method is different. I believe the terms should be as well.
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bthacker Mar 30, 2005 11:32 AM

I don't want to start an argument. I am just going off of what I learned. Believing they should be different doesn't sound like you definitely know yourself. I know I am not a Biologist or Herpetologist and I have a feeling you aren't either, so I will just leave it at that. If someone could chime in with some facts that would be helpful until then we will keep going in circles. Whether it's Pregnant or Gravid, it's still a beautiful thing!! Take care and have a great day.

PBM Mar 30, 2005 07:14 PM

Here's the definition, you two have fun! LOL, take care!

Pronunciation: 'gra-v&d
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin gravidus, from gravis heavy
Date: 1597
1 : PREGNANT
2 : distended with or full of eggs
- gra·vid·i·ty /gra-'vi-d&-tE/ noun

bthacker Mar 30, 2005 07:26 PM

Hey Paul....looks like we agree on something!!!!Hope all is well. Brett

DaveyFIg Mar 30, 2005 07:18 PM

Since the embryo gains no nutritional substances from the mother, I don't see how there could be an arguement against the term gravid being correct.
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bthacker Mar 30, 2005 11:09 AM

So does your point still remain the same? You can't correctly use the term gravid for Boas? Are you sure it's pregnant?

giantkeeper Mar 30, 2005 11:17 AM

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giantkeeper Mar 30, 2005 11:30 AM

Are you familiar with breeding cats & dogs? If so, you would know that they get pregnant & have litters. They are also born in a membrane sack! Yep, if it does not break in the birth canal, they are in sack. The same thing happens with boas. Now, I am unsure if this sack serves the same purpose in each species. Do you still think the proper term is gravid?
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giantkeeper Mar 30, 2005 11:41 AM

Because Websters Dictionary says, the definition of Gravid is pregnant. So, guess you can call it gravid, and I can call it pregnant, and still be the same thing.
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bthacker Mar 30, 2005 11:51 AM

Come'on gravid is so much easier to say and it sounds so much cooler. Take it easy! Brett

Randall_Turner Mar 30, 2005 11:48 AM

This is a fact, look up the definition of Gravid if you dispute it.

Gravid refers to anything that is carrying child.. It is accurate with humans as well.. The medical term used to describe a pregnant woman is Gravida. There ya go.. So it is accurate to use for boas (even though they are live bearing.)

to go a step further, for example, if an animal is gravid with their 4th litter they are Gravida 4.

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