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I'm so damn bummed, my Chenoa is dying, shes gasping and pretty much going, and theres not a thing I can do.
Such a pretty wild girl she is, I feel just terrible.

Maybe if I had not let her mate, she would be bouncing around the reptile room, instead of leaving.

Heres where I lose all the things I learned over the years, and Oh well your a breeder bull..... and just cave.

It really stinks, I never realized it could be this hard on her, almost makes me want to seperate everybody.

Oh God, I feel really sad for her. I felt sad as she was laying I knew she was not feeling good.

I hope if the eggs hatch ok I can keep a lil girl, because otherwise I have to stare at those eggs and wish they NEVER happened.
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PHEve / Eve

how do you know that she is dying? like what is happening? oh eve, i am so sorry but it happens sometimes (i know that probably does not help) don't beat yourself up, she turned orange and you were just going with what it looked like she wanted to do. keep us updated
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vonnie
***There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it. Mary Wilson Little ***

just wondering , has this happened before with egg laying females you've had? just asking because you sound pretty sure she will die.

i hope she will pull through and make a full recovery.
if she doesn't make it at least you could have some of her little babies to remember her by.

Eve has never had a problem with a lizard that was sick or unhealthy...she has put more work into lizards than I can shake a bedpost at. I trust her instincts on this. Sorry to hear she is going downhill. So sad.

Those eggs look great, and I know there is a little female in there for you.

John E...

i am not trying to question her statement just learn from her past experiences in the matter. i in no way am saying she doesnt know what she sees in front of her face. if this experience and or past instances can help you, me or anyone else on here to give our animals better lives than it is worth some discussion.

I wasn't meaning to sound as if I was questioning your statement at all. I didn't mean for it to be a reply to your statement. I meant to put it under Eve's comments...not your reply. Sorry about that ;O)
J

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I hope you are wrong and she makes a comeback. But you should not beat yourself up. It doesn't even matter that you let her mate. She still was making eggs and it could have gone exactly the same way when she laid them. You had no way of knowing how it would be for her; it is the circle of life. As much as we like to think we are in control we never really are. Young women in hospitals receiving state of the art care still die during or after childbirth. There are times I have sat at work and bawled over things like this; going over and over in my mind what we did, if it was right, and what else we could have done. Most of the time we never find out why; occasionally we learn something from the experience. You have done so many remarkable things to help herps in need plus you help so many on the forum. Keep up the great work and don't let this make you question yourself.
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Valerie

We may have all come on different ships, but we're in the same boat now.
--Martin Luther King, Jr.--

God bless the USA

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Ya, when lizards die it sucks. My "vegetated State" adult female is dying too. Nothing much we can do.

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Collaredkeeper
-If You Don't Have A Penny, A Half Penny Will Do-

I just would like to say I am sorry to hear that. I know how you feel. I just had one of my snakes go. I was away and my brother just didn't do what I had asked. If you are interested in another baby Collard (C. Collaris) I may have some I need to give to people who I know will take care of them, And I know you will This will be my first shot at hatching anything so I am a little particular about things. Here is Pele my Pueblan milk snake who is now in snake heaven. P.S. Thanks for the help with Sedona.

Your snake is absolutely gorgeous and I'm awfully sorry he died too. I hope they see each other in heaven, your snake can not hurt my Chenoa , they are not allowed up there, hehehehe

Again, your offer was so sweet, I guess you don't know how many collareds I have, LOL BUT like I told you, I get attached to each, handle them all , and each has their own personalities.

I wish you the best in your first attempt hatching those eggs, You will be very EGGCITED to say the least

Thanks,

Heres some of my guys

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PHEve / Eve

The best thing you can do is to figure out what went wrong and learn from it. It is not your fault! When you are dealing with live animals you will have deaths. I know it does not make it any easier for you but I think you do a damn great job and have done things with animals most of us would have given up on. Don't get discouraged you are doing a great job. Tom

Sorry Eve, It's very hard to lose a lizard that you have become attached too. I hope you can keep her spirit alive by raising her offspring.

What sad news

I hope the best for her.

With her turning orange its just natural she would have wanted offspring, I think her life would be successful you take the best care of her babies. What a fine clutch layed, I feel pretty positive all or most of them are fertile.
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-Nicole

2.1.0 collared lizards
2.0.0 side-blotched lizards
1.0.0 desert tarantula
small tropical fishes

I feel sorry for you.
You're always helpy with everyone ...
I hope we will be learning more from that bad story.
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Sara - Female Eastern Collared (Orange phase!)
30 X 16 X 12 enclosure
Full carpet
UVB 8.0