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Need some advice

turtle_dummy Apr 02, 2005 08:22 PM

My Fiance works at a pet store p/t at our local mall. Yeah those places are really crappy, but she is very much into animals and she actually got our dog there too.(Side effect of working at a pet store)....Anyways, they had a Red Eared Slider there that no one really seemed to care for, and its tank was absolutley the worst for a turtle...(ie no UVB light for basking and such.) Over time with poor lighting and horrid diet the turtle started to develop a strange fungus of some sort on its shell. It looks like it is a white fungus but now it has algae growing on it. His shell seems to be soft in some places of the fungus, but not on others. My fiance took a initiative there one day and set up a better tank envioronment(to the best of her abitility) at the store which seemed to have made the turtle a little happier. He still wasnt getting the proper care he needed so I asked my fiance if she was down with the idea of seeing if we could get a good deal on buying the whole setup from the store and takign care of the turlte ourselves. We did. $80 for the store's setup of the tank. I have everything setup at her place now and I have been reading as much as I can about taking care of this turtle. I named him King Koopa.

I have purchased around $200 worth of supplies for him to help him get better.

The turtle is in a 25 gallon tank now and he is rougly 5 inches. The tank is about half full of water and there is a turtle dock in there under a basking light. The turtle dock was too small for him so I purchased a bigger one. The filter that is in it is not very good or rated for turtles so I purchased a submergable filter that is rated for 30 gallons(read somewhere to get filters that are double the size of the amount of water in the tank). The light I have is not a UVB basking light. So I purchased a UVA/UVB basking light.

For his shell I:

Give him warm salt water baths for 30 minutes once a day.

Have him on a strict diet(based on a diet I saw on a website of info I found).

Give Calcium suppliments 2 times a week.

Try to provide the proper temperatures of the water, basking area, and the rest of the tank.

Purchased a proper basking light.

Medicated Sulfa Blocks

I am doing the best I can here, but I am having a problem. He doesnt like eating anything other then Turtle Pellets and Goldfish. I need to get him to eat more veggies and fruits. I try putting small pieces of floating lettuce, spinach, cantelope, tomatoes.....but he doesnt seem to like them. I have tried putting some pellets and some spinach in the feeding tank with him, hoping he will eat some spinach with the pellets and like it....but he lets go of the spinach if he gets some in his mouth. I don't know what to do. I dont know of any vets in the area that will look at a turtle. He doesn't seem to be in any pain.

What can I do?

Replies (15)

newticus Apr 03, 2005 01:13 AM

well your set up seems pretty good except you already need a bigger tank. The general rule is 10 gals per inch of turtle. You already need a 50 gal tank. Red ear sliders can get between 10-12 inches, that's a 100-120 gals.
anyway spinich, kale and broccoli are not the best foods as they have calcium blocking agents and iceburg lettus is no good as it has no nutritional value. My turtals love aquarium plant clippings, romain lettus and bell pepper. I have tried other things, but they don't like them much. So basically i would say experiment with food stuffs. As well you can just leave things like lettus and aqua plants in the tank. It allows for your turtal to graze. I do not recommend goldfish as a food source as they are really fatty and they often carry bugs and illnesses. I'm not 100% on the turtal being suseptable to the illnesses goldfish carry, but why chance it when there are better sources of protein and sustenece anyway.
If your turtal is already 5 inches you can cut back on turtal pellets to feeding every other day or every 3rd day while keeping greens in the tank all the time. If your turtal is not being stuffed with pellets it might started nibbling on the greens.
Your turtal should also only being recieving as many pellets as to the size of it's head.
anyway how this helps and i hope he gets better
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- Melanie

2.0.0 cats
0.0.3 crested geckos
1.2.2 leopard geckos
1.0.0 Bernese mountain dog
1.1.1 red ear sliders
0.0.1 emperor scorpion
0.0.1 chilean rose tarantula
1 south american cichlid tank
2 planted tanks with dwarf cichlids and platies

turtle_dummy Apr 06, 2005 01:05 PM

Thanks. I have only given him goldfish once. It was quite entertaining. I know PetSmart has a good variety of plants. Do you have any suggestions as to which kinds could be good for him? I will be getting my new filter hopefully tomorrow (April 7th) and that should help out some. His shell is getting noticable better. The algea is goign away and the white fungus seems to be going as well. I'm still giving him a warm salt water bath everyday and I also have a Dr. Turtle calcium sulfa block in the tank with him. I know the tank is too small for him now, but it will have to do due to small currant living space. I plan on getting a bigger tank for him in the future or giving him to someone as soon as his shell is better. Thanks for your help

Laurentha Apr 06, 2005 11:07 PM

First, thank you for rescuing this turtle.

Try anacharis (which the pet store should have) and collard greens. Instead of goldfish, try minnows or guppies as they are less fatty. Other good foods would be crickets, mealworms, night crawlers, waxworms (as a treat). Juvenile RES do tend to be more carniverous but keep offering veggies and fruit.

As to a larger tank, a Rubbermaid type storage container works well. They are quite inexpensive and easy to clean. When you're ready to get another filter I strongly recommend a canister type. However, turtles are quite messy so even with the best of filters, you need to poop scoop (a brine shrimp net works well for this).

turtle_dummy Apr 07, 2005 07:39 AM

He definatly loves to eat crickets. Are the canned mealworms and crickets you can buy at the pet stores good for the turtle? I dont know how nutricious the crickets are that I buy at the pet store are and I dont wanna keep the crickets around and fatten them up with the gutload stuff. I saw a big can of the freeze dried crickets and meal worms. I almost picked them up, but I figured I would ask about them first. Anyone reccomend them?

This was the brand I saw the meal worms and crickets came in.

These are the crickets:
http://www.arcatapet.com/item.cfm?cat=8757

Thanks...

Turtle Dummy
aka Keith

turtle_dummy Apr 07, 2005 07:49 AM

I have also seen the smaller canned version which you can find here....

http://www.animalspecialties.biz/enrichother.html

I have read that some turtles will not like the dryness of them, but koopa has eaten the dried krill and shrimp before. I jsut wanna make sure he gets the best he can. Thanks.

Laurentha Apr 07, 2005 11:16 PM

I bought a Can-O-Crickts once.... NASTY! They also mold quickly once opened. The freeze dried ones are like cardboard. Better to use live ones. If you get the small ones, they don't chirp.

turtle_dummy Apr 07, 2005 01:57 PM

What temp should I keep the water at? I read that if you have a turtle that is sick to have the temp to about 85 F. I have been seeing people say temps between 70-80 or 75-80. Whats a good temp? The turtle does have that weird fungus/Algea growing on his back, but everything im doing seems to be killing the algea and helping out his shell.

What you all recommend for temps? Should I leave it be for now and lower it when he is better?
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Keith

1 Pembroke Welsh Corgi (Kaiya)
1 RES (King Koopa aka Bowser)
1 Betta (Killer)
1 Fiance' (Lacy - Requires more work and attention then any animal. Not Recommended......j/k)

Unearthly Productions
http:www.unearthlyproductions.com
"Keeping the underground alive since....well since yesterday"

newticus Apr 07, 2005 09:23 PM

what temp is the water now? I would say leave it at 75-80, with a nice warm basking spot out of the water. I think appropirate temps for basking are about 90.
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- Melanie

2.0.0 cats
0.0.3 crested geckos
1.2.2 leopard geckos
1.0.0 Bernese mountain dog
1.1.1 red ear sliders
0.0.1 emperor scorpion
0.0.1 chilean rose tarantula
1 south american cichlid tank
2 planted tanks with dwarf cichlids and platies

turtle_dummy Apr 07, 2005 10:24 PM

I try to keep the water temp between 75-85 at least. it varies a lot, but i try to stabalize it. Basking is high 80's usually
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Keith

1 Pembroke Welsh Corgi (Kaiya)
1 RES (King Koopa aka Bowser)
1 Betta (Killer)
1 Fiance' (Lacy - Requires more work and attention then any animal. Not Recommended......j/k)

Unearthly Productions
http:www.unearthlyproductions.com
"Keeping the underground alive since....well since yesterday"

Laurentha Apr 07, 2005 11:18 PM

I keep my tank at 80°. Congrats on that fungus/algea stuff getting better!

turtle_dummy Apr 08, 2005 09:10 AM

I will have to post some before and after pics of the algea. I should have got a pic when I first got him. The only pic I have of him now was taken a week ago and I can't belive how much better his shell got since then. His shell color is still dull, but I am sure it will come back once he is healed. We are still undecided if we are going to keep him after he is healed or give him to my fiances mother(she loves turtles).

Thanks for the help all. I appreciate it.
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Keith

1 Pembroke Welsh Corgi (Kaiya)
1 RES (King Koopa aka Bowser)
1 Betta (Killer)
1 Fiance' (Lacy - Requires more work and attention then any animal. Not Recommended......j/k)

Unearthly Productions
http:www.unearthlyproductions.com
"Keeping the underground alive since....well since yesterday"

turtle_dummy Apr 08, 2005 03:57 PM

Koopa Before
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Keith

1 Pembroke Welsh Corgi (Kaiya)
1 RES (King Koopa aka Bowser)
1 Betta (Garcia)
1 Fiance' (Lacy - Requires more work and attention then any animal. Not Recommended......j/k)

Unearthly Productions
http:www.unearthlyproductions.com
"Keeping the underground alive since....well since yesterday"

turtle_dummy Apr 08, 2005 03:58 PM

I think I goofed....

Here is a before.....
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Keith

1 Pembroke Welsh Corgi (Kaiya)
1 RES (King Koopa aka Bowser)
1 Betta (Garcia)
1 Fiance' (Lacy - Requires more work and attention then any animal. Not Recommended......j/k)

Unearthly Productions
http:www.unearthlyproductions.com
"Keeping the underground alive since....well since yesterday"

turtle_dummy Apr 08, 2005 04:04 PM

Here he is after...
Image
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Keith

1 Pembroke Welsh Corgi (Kaiya)
1 RES (King Koopa aka Bowser)
1 Betta (Garcia)
1 Fiance' (Lacy - Requires more work and attention then any animal. Not Recommended......j/k)

Unearthly Productions
http:www.unearthlyproductions.com
"Keeping the underground alive since....well since yesterday"

Laurentha Apr 08, 2005 09:57 PM

Keep up the good work. You know that once you get him all better, it's going to be VERY hard to part with him.

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