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after all the recent talk about tigers I figured that i should post mine. I'm thinking about teaming her up with a hypo or a pastel

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

Is that animal of Honduran lineage? Now I'm of the assumption that a lot of general Hondurans have a low saddle count and or missing saddles? Correct me if I'm wrong but can normal locality Hondurans be considered 'tigers'?

Granted when reduced pattern animals are bred together you will get varying degrees of this pattern reduction and eventually some animals that are more extreme then others but in my opinion it would be similar to someone line breeding for reduced pattern Amarali or thin saddled Peruvians? Not a real 'morph' in amongst general morph terminology.

Animals will inevitably throw babies that look like the parents but most 'tiger' boas out there in my opinion are just produced through generational breeding of low saddle count and missing saddle animals. They aren't produced co-dom or dom? Maybe this is incorrect, and if anyone has other info please share.

Now this is simply an observation from owning normal Hondurans and Central American Tiger boas. Please don't take this the wrong way as that animal is awesome but I think the terminology is thrown around very loosely similar to that of a pastel.

All the best,
Justin Higgs
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Justin
I total agree with your point about line breeding. and it does seem like a large number of "tiger" boas are from honduran stock, so it is likley that it is a gentic trait like reduce pattern bolivians are peak sur's. I hope that it is a co dom trait but that will have to be proven, if I breed her to say a pastel and half the babies where tigery that would help tpo say ya co-dom probably where as if I breed her to a honduran with similer markes it would be hard to say co-dom and not just a line breed trait. thats my thinking (yes many breeding trails are need to say for sure) any other thoughts?
micah

Well, im not sure if she is genetic, but here is what i think is a tiger. Not sure whats going on with her this fall it would be nice to prover her out (wink...wink...boas ark)

Ryan

let me know what happenas with that line they llok great

Micah, you're absolutely right, there simply needs to be more breeding before anyone can say that it is truly a morph or pattern morph other then that it is just a genetic trait like blond hair or blue eyes. One of the best ways to figure out how it works is to breed it to an animal preferably another Honduran that is the antithesis of that animal in pattern. Most likely you'll get a few that look like that one. However let it be stated that I'm just a proponent of putting a name on something until it is proven genetically. I hope it works out for you and like I said either way it's an awesome animal, but just because it has a missing saddle I don't believe it can be called a tiger.

Finally what is a tiger? Who has a true genetic line of tigers? Take one of the "proven" tiger lines and breed it to a normal patterned animal from the same locality and most likely you'll get 'tigers' that are less drastically patterned. Take those offspring and again bred it them back to normal patterned animals and again I bet you'll get 'tigers' but again with a lesser degree of aberrant pattern behavior? I know there are people that sell tigers, but to me they are simply line bred for pattern?

All the best,
Justin Higgs

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin