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Well I have had my uro for a little of 2 years now... and he has done well living with me bearded for almost that whole time... but today my husband called and let me know that my ro was holding my little bearded in his mouth. I have never noticed and injuries on either of them before. I am going to keep them in sepuret tanks from now on but does anyone know what could have caused this change in behaveure? They have kinda been "friends", they sleep together and lay on each other to bake....I just dont want to have two tanks set up at one time but know that I will...

well we never really know for sure but it could be anything. what were their sexes? two males usually don't get along well.
also uro males and females or females and females who have lived together for a long time can end up fighting and hurting each other. i think it is really bizarre how one day they can up and hate their cage mate.
i would say you will have to keep them apart now. the bearded has nothing to protect himself against the uro and those tails really hurt, trust me i have been whipped before.
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vonnie
***There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it. Mary Wilson Little ***

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1.1.0 cb red saharan uromastyx 0.0.1 cb egyptian occelated uromastyx 0.0.1 cb mali uromastyx

I second this opinion. Just because they didn't appear stressed doesn't mean they haven't been for the past 2 years. 2 different animals, 2 different husbandry needs.
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1.1 Ornates (Lindsay Pike)(Doug Dix)
0.0.1 Mali
0.1 Weimaraner

The only thing odd about this is you putting the two together and not expecting an eventual problem.

i am not trying to start a fight here but comments like that are really unnecessary and makes new people not want to come back to the boards and i am not saying it just to you but to anyone who makes sarcastic comments to people. by the amount of people who post on here asking if it is ok to house and bearded and uro together, it is not odd for her to think they could live together. what we should be doing, instead of posting barbs, is telling her why they cannot live together and telling her that uros can turn on any cage mate, regardless if it is another uro or not, so if she decides to get a cage mate in the future she can know to look for possible signs of aggression from her current uro. kingsnake is a fabulous tool for reptile knowledge and people come here because they do not know the answers to problems and it is not fair to be rude and ostracize people because they have less experience than others.
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vonnie
***There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it. Mary Wilson Little ***

thnx for clearing all that up jeune18. i can honestly say i would had tried to house a beardie and a uro toegther. infact i was till i read this unfortunate news. i figured if i could house two different species dogs together why not to different lizards? dogs are just as territorial as lizards so....
anyhow sorry to hear that it diddnt work out for the two of them euryale. but what quite an acheivement to have had it done for nearly 2 years!

i don't know the specifics of why they cannot live together but it has something to do with the helpful parasites of one are the harmful parasites of the other and some husbandry things. i don't own beardies but i have seen people post about this before and i remember the evidence they presented showed they should not live together
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vonnie
***There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it. Mary Wilson Little ***

What about housing a a cat and a hamster together. They're both cute furry animals? Now I guess it's my fault if anyone is dumb enough to do that. Your logic is amazing.

So is your rudeness!

You're right. I do get rude when people abuse animals or make excuses for those that do.

spook you're one really passionate person when it comes to animals and you've made that very clear to me. it's just the way you address people. just remember people have feelings just like the animals you care for. and to encourage them sure will make them do the best they can to care for their animal. no one has all the answers. thats why we have this great forum.

I have to agree. It only takes a little common sence to see that these two species should not be housed together. Unfortunately, we see alot of problems like this and worse because people just don't use common sence. It gets very frustrating, even exasperating. Example: I once had a lady ask me if it was ok to house her hermit crabs with a bearded dragon.

Here are a few reasons not to house two or more different species together:

The species may have developed on totally different continents and may carry parasites or bacteria that they themselves have developed an immunity to, but the other species hasn't.

Different eating habits

Different heating requirements

Different habitats

Territorial and/or aggressive behaviors

Wendy
Scales

and it's fine to agree that they should not be housed together and to think that they are so different that you would have never considered putting them together but what you have to remember is that the common sense of one person isn't the same as the common sense of another (and trust me, working in education has taught me that).
all i am saying is that in order to educate people so things like this do not keep happening is to tell them in a cordial manner. just telling them that "you have no common sense" doesn't help anything (and i am not saying that is all you said, it was just an example). they become defensive, which can halt the educational experience. if you truly care about the animals, then you have to care about educating the people. i don't think any of us would be where we are today if someone had said "god you are so stupid" every time we turned around when we first got lizards. i am not defending any husbandry practices or anything. i am just saying there is a better way to educate people than by putting them down
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vonnie
***There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it. Mary Wilson Little ***

Teaching someone something and voicing your opinion are two different things.
And yes, I do agree, there is alot of "teaching" involved when it comes to people and reptiles.

I really didn't see his comments as being offensive. I just happen to understand how frustrating it is to see over and over again the lack of common sence. You would not believe some of the things people ask if they can house together, and those are the ones who ask.
Wendy
Scales

I didn't see anything rude with what was said on this topic but that might be because I agree. My question is does this fall under common sense or having no clue how to take care of 2 different reptiles? This topic just comes up way too often that if you looked into it at all you would come up with some kind of answer.
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1.1 Ornates (Lindsay Pike)(Doug Dix)
0.0.1 Mali
0.1 Weimaraner