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My female hypo? from the Boawoman had her first litter yesterday. 30 healty babies, 2 slugs and one stillborn. After speaking with Sharon from the boastore and Mike from Basically Boas I knew that the trait appeared to be a simple recessive gene.
All the babies in my litter came out normal which would make them 100% hets. I bred her to both an outstanding normal male and a 100% het for albino. By looking at the babies I would have to say that the het albino is the father, but who knows for sure.
I think this is going to be a fun project to work with.
Steve

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Looks like you did a fine job! Nice Pastels!!! I am sorry she did not prove to be a hypo for you...but you got a whole bunch of nice pastels anyway!! Andy

I believe the hypos from BoaWoman are a known hypomelanistic line seperate from the Salmon (Ihle) / Orange-Tail (Gee) line.

I wasnt aware of whether or not they are dominant like salmon/gee hypos. I guess they are recessive! Interesting.

To my knowledge there is no recessive hypo gene. I wish those with greater knowledge would comment as this is a great topic. There are natural genetic hypos such as the hog island boa, and that will produce a true cross, but genetically the hypo gene wether co-dom or Dom. shows itself visually every time the gene is present.

There are co-dom pastels, and rather than call them by a name let me say that they are the best type of pastels to work with. I stumbled across one, and now have an understanding of what is going on with that gene.

I have produced 3 litters with 1 red pastel female, one normal boa, and 1 of this co-dominant pastel gene. I have seen first hand what gets produced. I even posted a baby normal from that litter and people who have much training on what to look for in a hypo said it was a hypo. I produced it and I know it is a normal. I tell you it does indeed look like a hypo.

I would love to hear more comments on this topic... Andy

These things shed perfectly clear, like ghost/hypo ball pythons (which are recessive). If there is no pigment comming out in the shed then I have to say these are in fact hypos. What does the technical term hypomelanistic mean anyway? Reduced black right? They are reduced black, and to distinguish from the other lines, they arent just sold as hypos, but "Boawoamn hypos". They have been around for a long time now, and I in my opinion have proven themselves to the point where comments like these need not be made.
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Davey Giltner

Davey,
I have to agree with you, but I guess I should not have posted them with the word hypo used in the name. Maybe it would have been better just to say Boawoman morph. I did not post them to argue whether or not if they classify as hypos, I posted them just for forum enjoyment. All I know is, whatever they are, I think they are some good-looking boas and thats just my opinion.
Enjoy,
Steve

ANyone who knows of, or about the "Boawoman morph" has heard them called Boawoman hypos. The only people that are going to argue it now are people who haven't paid much attention in the past, No worries.
Davey
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Davey Giltner

Info on pastels here: http://www.theboaforum.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=boapics1;action=display;num=1050880714

Because I was tired of people constantly getting this confused I even asked Jeff Ronne that exact question to clear it up officially/publicly at the last kingsnake chat session (sat, march 5):

"TopNotchBoas: Hi Jeff, What is your current opinion on the way the pastel trait in boas is working? Polygenic? Codominant?

boaphile: My opinion has not changed. Polygenic. GA:"

Check this out....normal or hypo? I know it is a normal, but I believe it is a co-dom pastel. It will be proven in a year or two anyway. Andy

Another angle of the same Normal ( hypo looking) genetic pastel

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