Could be a dirty Thamnophis butleri.
It was found in Ohio.
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Another unidentified Garter *PIC*
RMB
Jul 10, 2003 11:45 AM
Replies (3)
haddachoose1
Jul 10, 2003 03:32 PM
Man, that looks like a water snake from the top. Do you have a side shot?
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Tim
RMB
Jul 10, 2003 09:30 PM
That's what I thought at first glance but, after I caught it and handled it further, I changed my mind on closer inspection.
I think water snakes have eyes situated on top of their head and I don't think their scales are keeled (I could be wrong).
I don't have a side-pic sorry.
Cheers,
Ryan
michaelb
Jul 11, 2003 05:28 AM
I'm fairly certain it's a butleri. Definitely not a water snake (which also would have keeled scales and would not necessarily have eyes more toward the top of the head). The only water snake in that area, besides the queen snake, is Nerodia s. sipedon, Northern Water Snake, and that's definitely not one of them.
Check the scale location of the lateral (side) stripes near the neck. If they're on row 3 and adjacent parts of rows 2 and 4, it's a Butler. If they're confined to rows 2 and 3 only, it's a variant of the Eastern Garter.
