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RI medical exam

shhawke Apr 12, 2005 07:56 PM

does anyone know of any studies that have been done on snakes that have been treated with an RI???

beacuse i was thinking that if anyone has had a snake that had an RI in the past and they had the snake when it died that it might be a good idea to send it to a medical facility and have it examined to see if their were and long term affects from the antibiotics...
i dont doubt that if causes damage while administering the antibiotics, i am hoping to figure out if their is any intrenal damage that could cause the snake to have a shorter life..
or maybe the chances of a second RI would be harder on the snake...

i would like to hear your opinions on this and any reading material from tests woudl be great too...

shiloh

Replies (3)

tredding Apr 12, 2005 10:01 PM

wow I did not even think about the damages of the antibiotics. I guess even if it does do some damage it is still worth it if it is a matter of life or death such as in my rescue case. I would definately think twice if one of the snakes in my care started in with a RI. I have heard from several people that a slightly elevated temp can wipe out a RI if it is in the very first stages. But with my rescue girl we had no choice. I would really like to know if the baytril will damage her though.

shhawke Apr 12, 2005 10:36 PM

i am all for using antibiotics... they have saves lots of snakes... and i'm sure it saved Travis's snake...

i was just wondering if any tests had been done to see the long term affects... and if not maybe we could all keep that in mind for later down the road... this should be considered important information that we all would use. breeders and pet owners alike...

shiloh

joeysgreen Apr 14, 2005 06:53 AM

Pharmacokinetic studies are limited in reptiles however they are done. Veterinarian's use drug formulary's to decide on drugs to use. A vet may see 10 or so mammilian species, but there are thousands of reptile species readily available. Dosages and other medical information pertaining to the drug, it's metabolism, and excretion are often extrapolated from studies done in other reptilian species, and secondarily, in mammalian species. Your veterinarian will have considered your questions, as they are necessary for any and all prescriptions (yet another reason why I am so hard on people insisting on finding Baytril doses over the net cuz they can get it at whatever hick website). The information and experience available to your veterinarian will influence any decision which is arguement to looking for the most experienced herp vet in your area. In general I would say that no, long term effects are not a serious threat. With that said however, if used improperly there is definately a threat. Why is the lifespan reduced? Generally because alot of organ tissue cannot be regenerated like skin or muscle can. Therefore if say, amakacin is used in a dehydrated animal, kidney damage may result that the animal will have to live with for the rest of it's life. When old age finally starts to take a toll on the kidney, there is that much less healthy tissue to start out with.

I hope this gives you what you are looking for. I avoid giving exact data on doses or reptile drug formularies, but if you would like to get more detail, ask your veterinarian if you may browse through his guide.

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