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Help on morph?

twee Apr 16, 2005 02:03 PM

He was sold to us as a blizard, and no doubt he is. He dos not seem to be blazing, his eyes are a blueish-grey. His head is white with small yellow dots on it. His body is a pallid yellow, like a light lusistic. His tail has a small amount of carrot tail on it, too, ear the base. The rest of his tail is pink. Is he some hind of morph-mutt? XD He was from a pet store. I dont have any pictures of him that actually show his colour, the camra seems to mute it. He is still growing, almost full size, but not quite. With every shed, he gains more carrot tail and his body gets more yellow. The spots on his head are not getting any bigger, and are only visible when he is fresh out of a molt. My normal female is going to lay his eggs any time, and I am curious to know what they will be het for. I know blizzard, but anything else?

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twee Apr 16, 2005 02:04 PM

Whoops. I forgot about the genetics board. You can ignore this post, I'll paste it on the correct board. Appoligies.

devious_froggy Apr 16, 2005 07:53 PM

You'll probbaly get better responses here then on the genitics bord.

Any pictue would really help. but it sounds like maybe he's a super hypo albino, with a little carrot tail. the blizzards are usually a little more grey (usually...) and i've never seen a pic of one with carrot tail. but i could be wrong, again any pic would be great.
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iluvblackfrancis Apr 16, 2005 08:19 PM

It's possible that he's a patternless, and not a blizzard, but either one of those would make sense. Both patternless and blizzards can look very similar, but patternless are a lot more prone to having carrot-tail...I don't know if any blizzard does.
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twee Apr 17, 2005 06:30 AM

If you give me a moment, I can see if I can get a picture of him. The one I have is one shed old, so the carrot tail is a bit smaller in the picture. It is really intense for about a centimether, and then it starts to spread out. He does have one spot, on his tail. As I said, I am no genetics expert, but I dont know if one or the other can had spots. Its on the side, almost the underside of his tail.

twee Apr 17, 2005 07:06 AM

After half an hour of yelling at the computer, I finally realized all I had to do to make the pictures usible is to load them to photobucket. -.-

Well, here is the newest picture, one, maybe two sheds old. As you can see, there is not much carrottail, but it is definatly there. I dont know how well it will display his colour. I will also show some pictures when he was youger, and looked pink all over.
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twee Apr 17, 2005 07:10 AM

The tail is usually more pink than in the last picture. the carrot tail is an itty bitty bit bigger, now. as you can see, there are some yellow spots on his head. He did look a lot differnt when he was younger, almost transparent.
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twee Apr 17, 2005 07:15 AM

Please, no sand wars.

Here is him and Yoshi, who is going to lay soon, when his carrot tail was just beginning to emerge. the tail is hard to see, but this is what he looked like a month, maybe two back.
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twee Apr 17, 2005 07:17 AM

Er... nevermind, you cant see the carrot tail part from that angle. You can see that he is a male, though.

Here is one just when he is starting to yellow up.
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GreggMM Apr 17, 2005 09:38 AM

That is a blizard for sure.... It could also have patternless genetics in it as well.... Possible banana blizard.... If that is the case, all of your babies will be normal looking but will be het for blizard for sure and maybe patternless if the genetics are there.... Some blizards do infact have carrot tails....

devious_froggy Apr 17, 2005 10:33 AM

I agree, definatley a blizzard.
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AlteredMind99 Apr 17, 2005 11:08 AM

How do you determine between blizzards and patternless. I had a patternless that looked just like that, I can never tell those two morphs apart...
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twee Apr 17, 2005 12:51 PM

This is my first year breeding. What I plan to do is breed him to my normal leo Yoshi, (pictured in one of the posts with him) then wait for the babies to mature, than breed the babies back to their father. If I do so, 50% of the babies should turn out to look like their father, and the other 50% will be het, correct? Or will they look slightly different?

lyran85 Apr 17, 2005 04:16 PM

looks like a bannana blizzard to me.....

twee Apr 17, 2005 04:42 PM

Forgive me, I know near nothing about morphs. What I dont understand is this bananna blizzard idea. Are they two different genes, or is the bannana blizzard just the blizzard gene with yellow colouration?

wizardlizards Apr 17, 2005 10:30 PM

A "True" banana Blizzard is a patty x blizzard cross, but yellowish blizzards are often called banana blizzards. There is debate on whether "true" bananas exist, and I have been told that one has yet to be proven out.

Tony

aliceinwl Apr 18, 2005 12:00 AM

Kelli at HISS has a true bannana blizzard (patternless blizzard)that has been proven out. Now, almost all yellow blizzards are marketed as bannanas.

What happened is Prehistoric Pets crossed their blizzards and patternless. After breeding the double hets they hatched ot some very yellow looking blizzards. They assumed that these yellow blizzards were the patternless blizzards and named them bannana blizzards. Breeding these bannanas, however, revealed that they were actually just yellow blizzards. This created a lot of confusion, because everyone who hatched out a yellow blizzard thought they'd hatched out a patternless blizzard and marketed as a bannana blizzard, which at the time commanded a much higher prices. When it was realized that for the most part all the bannana blizzards were actually just yellow blizzards, people continued to use the bannana term to market yellow blizzards.

Kelli's patternless blizzard is almost indistinguishable from a yellow blizzard. I think that this fact lead to the lack of interest in "true" bannana blizzadrds.

Your guy looks like a very nice yellow blizzard!

-Alice

AlteredMind99 Apr 18, 2005 08:41 AM

So how do you tell the difference between a yellowish patternless and a banana or yellow blizzard?
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0.1 mexican kingsnake
1.0.2 Leopard Gecko's
0.0.1 Rose Hair Tarantula
1.0 BTS
0.0.1 Reverse Okeetee Corn
0.1 Bullmastiff
4.1 Cats

twee Apr 18, 2005 07:46 PM

Could anyone give me the adress for HISS? I have heard a lot of great things about them, but have never visited the sight.

Also, would breeding the "yellow blizzard" to a normal increse the amount of yellow on the babies?

wizardlizards Apr 19, 2005 11:01 PM

www.hisss.net

or use the link at the sponsor's link section at the top of the page.

Tony

wizardlizards Apr 19, 2005 10:59 PM

I think Kelli's banana blizzard died. I had asked her about it in a chat one evening, and I am pretty sure she said that it had died. I may be wrong though.

Tony

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