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very serious problem...

djzion Apr 17, 2005 07:29 PM

what is an ideal humidity for a gtp? the care sheet from the breeder i got mine from says always 80-95%. well my gtp developed many blisters and died today. im crushed! i did everything his caresheet said. i found out from some people today that if ur humidity is too high they can develop these sores/blisters. can anyone confirm or deny this? i want to make sure my snake didnt die in vain. i want to have all my facts straight for when i demand my buddy be replaced and his care sheet be changed!!!!

thank you

Replies (5)

shhawke Apr 17, 2005 08:33 PM

yes i think your humidity was a little high, i usually go between 60-70%... but i dont think that would kill your snake...
what was your temps?
what kind of heating did you have?
was is exposed so the snake could get really close???
how big was your cage?
was this a new cage? could have had bacteria in it...
how long did you have the snake?
cb or wc?

lots of possable killers out their... those answers would help...

shiloh

Dogbert0051 Apr 18, 2005 12:17 AM

First off i'm sorry for your loss.

The death could be a number of problems, the answers to the questions already asked would help greatly.

There is a big difference between high humidity in the jungle and high humidity in a tank. Your snake tends to collect more water with high humidity in the tank, and this can cause water blisters. This can be a place for bacteria to enter the body and cause an infection. This is a definate possibility, however the answers to the other questions will help us rule out other things.

But yes, 80-95% is WAY too high humidity. I have coco husk substrate, rewet it about every 8-10 days. As I rewet it the humidity reaches around 90%, then over a period of 8-10 days it drops down in the 60's. This lets my cage, substrate, and snake dry out a little (but not too much> Helps prevent mildew and mold growth, and water blisters.

Again, sorry for your loss.
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djzion Apr 18, 2005 03:30 PM

what was your temps?
daytime 70-75 nighttime 65-70

what kind of heating did you have?
large heating pad underneath tank

was this exposed so the snake could get really close???
no

how big was your cage?
not for sure cuz its custom but its about a 20 extra tall

was this a new cage? could have had bacteria in it...
yes it was a new cage but i cleaned it thouroghly with reptile safe cleanser before the snake was put in

how long did you have the snake?
got it on march 5th died yesterday

cb or wc?
cb

also i had many branches and vines of varying sizes a huge water dish, and a coco husk substrate. he never ate in this time period though i tried offering him fuzzies. i tried about once a week since i got him. he never once ate. im guessing he didnt eat because of the humidity now that i know it was way to high he was probably really uncomfortable and didnt want to eat or he was already getting sick and didnt want to eat. i am truly crushed. had the breeder known there info was wrong i could have avoided all of this. i checked a few other sources to and they all said to have a high humididty. im going to demand the breeder replace it and not listen to his care sheet this time around!

Brandon Osborne Apr 18, 2005 06:24 PM

Attribute this loss to RI. A baby chondro kept in 90% humid conditions with temps that low is aiming for certain death. Temps should be 80-84 during the day and 76-80 at night. Although babies should be a little more humid than adults due to kidney damage from dehydration, they should not be kept in "wet" or soggy conditions. I hope this doesn't keep you from trying again with the species. They are truly one of the best snakes on earth. I'm sure alot of keepers lost their first chondro......I did. Good luck go here to learn more. http://p219.ezboard.com/bmoreliaviridis There are MANY great people that will be eager to see you succeed in keeping chondros.

Brandon Osborne

what was your temps?
daytime 70-75 nighttime 65-70

what kind of heating did you have?
large heating pad underneath tank

was this exposed so the snake could get really close???
no

how big was your cage?
not for sure cuz its custom but its about a 20 extra tall

was this a new cage? could have had bacteria in it...
yes it was a new cage but i cleaned it thouroghly with reptile safe cleanser before the snake was put in

how long did you have the snake?
got it on march 5th died yesterday

cb or wc?
cb

also i had many branches and vines of varying sizes a huge water dish, and a coco husk substrate. he never ate in this time period though i tried offering him fuzzies. i tried about once a week since i got him. he never once ate. im guessing he didnt eat because of the humidity now that i know it was way to high he was probably really uncomfortable and didnt want to eat or he was already getting sick and didnt want to eat. i am truly crushed. had the breeder known there info was wrong i could have avoided all of this. i checked a few other sources to and they all said to have a high humididty. im going to demand the breeder replace it and not listen to his care sheet this time around!

djzion Apr 24, 2005 11:47 PM

thank you all for your help and understanding.. the breeder replaced the snake free of charge which is awsome. ive learned soooo much since my guy died. the new chondro is doing GREAT! he has the tightest coils ive ever seen. really well tempered. my last guy was vicious and for obvious reasons. the new guy is so calm take awfully well to being handled. he has only bit one person and that was because my roomate was a little to rough and tried taking him out during the day. other than that hes been nothing but awsome. ive place 3 temp and 3 humidity gauges in 3 different spots of the cage i know exactly whats goin down and where at all times cuz ill be damned if im gonna lose this one too! now we just have to see if hell eat or not. he was fed on tuesday morning the day i got em. i figured give him a few extra days adjustmen time and ill try feeding him tomorrow night (monday) he hasnt hung his head down like hes hundry and hes only pooped twice so he may not be ready well see i guess.

heres a ?

he dosent move much at all is this ok?

my last guy was insanley active. but i now know this is because he was never truly comfortable anywhere in his cage. what is normal behavior? he has his fav spot which as far as i can tell he hasnt left (except when i take him out) since i got him almost a week ago... is this normal? could he just be digesting still?

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