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What might this be? (long)

newticus Apr 18, 2005 05:26 PM

I don't have any pics. I got these from a forest/feild/quarry near my house. I live in Toronto, so southern Ontario. They have 19 scale rows. 7 labial scales, single plate vent scale. I am assuming they are adults at about 2- 2 1/2 feet. I have three, one's stripes are a pale orange, one's is a pale blue green, and the thirds is yellow. They were all found in the same imediate area. There is one thin dorsal stripe made of about 1-2 scales. Then solid black, and another thin stripe of about 3 scales at about the 2-4th scale row.
There is a black stripe between the belly scales and the side stripe but it is at most 1-2 scales deep at 1-2nd scale row. It is the shallowness of this black strip that makes me think it's not an eastern ribbon snake. I thought it could be a butlers garter snake, but their stripes are yellow-orange, not blue. And their dorsal strip looks too thick. The belly is the colour of the dorsal and side stripes but with a black blue blotchy smear in the middle.
The labial scales are are the same as their sripes and fades into black on the nasal scales. The scales are also keeled.
I found them in an old open feild. It is slightly damp, but not marshy. at least where i found these guys. They were right on the dirt path.
Does anyone have a clue as to what these guys are??
thanks
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Replies (1)

Shaky Apr 22, 2005 08:52 PM

Sounds like Eastern garters to me. They are extremely variable.
I'm not positive they range so far North, but they likely do.
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