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Does anyone know of a good genitics program that you cna use for corn snakes? I thought someone posted one a while back but I can't find the post. If so can you post the website again.

I just downloaded one last week! LOL! I don't know if it's any good as I don't know enough about these things to varify any accuracy but I'll point you to it anyway. Have fun!!

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/spencer62/cornprog.html

If the link in the last post doesn't work, just do a search for "Mick's corn snake prodgeny predictor" and I'm sure it will come up for you.

Here you go.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/spencer62/cornprog.html

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Marcel Poots (Holland)

'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

Marcels snakepage

Ok thx i got it aswell to try and see what i might get from the 7 eggs i have incubating at the moment.
some questions
1. how do i know if the parents are carrying any heterozygous genes?
2. When computing the offspring the results given are nowhere near what last years offspring look like.

This is my first pair of corns and i got to see 1 of last years clutch which the previous owners kept.
Mother is amenalistic
Father is a snow
The offspring i saw had a base colour of pure white with bright red saddles surrounded by a ring of vivid orange.( i thought this was a creamsicle put from what i have read on here and in my corn snake books it just isnt possible the offspring are creamsicles)

Any ideas what i am gonna get ???

Ebola

Ok thx i got it aswell to try and see what i might get from the 7 eggs i have incubating at the moment.
some questions
1. how do i know if the parents are carrying any heterozygous genes?
2. When computing the offspring the results given are nowhere near what last years offspring look like.

This is my first pair of corns and i got to see 1 of last years clutch which the previous owners kept.
Mother is amenalistic
Father is a snow
The offspring i saw had a base colour of pure white with bright red saddles surrounded by a ring of vivid orange.( i thought this was a creamsicle put from what i have read on here and in my corn snake books it just isnt possible the offspring are creamsicles)

Any ideas what i am gonna get ???

Ebola

>some questions
> 1. how do i know if the parents are carrying any heterozygous genes?

By pedigree and by breeding results.

> 2. When computing the offspring the results given are nowhere near what last years offspring look like.
>
> This is my first pair of corns and i got to see 1 of last years clutch which the previous owners kept.
> Mother is amenalistic
> Father is a snow
> The offspring i saw had a base colour of pure white with bright red saddles surrounded by a ring of vivid orange.( i thought this was a creamsicle put from what i have read on here and in my corn snake books it just isnt possible the offspring are creamsicles)
>
> Any ideas what i am gonna get ???

All the babies from a snow x amelanistic mating are amelanistic, heterozygous anerythristic.

That youngster sounds like an amelanistic Miami phase (AKA candycane). AFAIK, nobody has worked out the genetics of Miami phase, so it isn't in Mick's corn snake progeny predictor. FWIW, I think Mick's CSPP is the best genetics program available for corns.

Paul Hollander

Thx Paul for your reply.
Is it just me or is this genetics thing really confusing ? lol oh well with you guys help on here i am sure i will get to grips eventually.
AnywayI think i must have looked at about 50 websites yesterday checking out the different photos of colour morph corns,and i am certain that the male is definitely a snow.No confusion there. The female however is causing the problem in identification. From the photos i have seen on the net she may be either a sunglow or an amenalistic as some sites had photos of each which looked identical to mine.
And as for the youngster i have seen from the pairs clutch last year then yes i agree with you that they are candy canes there is no doubt, every photo i have seen on the net of baby candy cane corns is identical to the young they produced last year.
So bearing this in mind is the female a sunglow which might explain the youngsters they produced ?? Or maybe she is carrying a heterozygous trait for miami from what you said in your reply to my previous post ???
So confused now
Ebola

Have to make this quick.

Sunglow is amelanistic without white edging to the dorsal blotches. Produced by selective breeding or adding in hypomelanistic. The bloodred pattern gene might do it too.

Probably both parents are carrying the gene(s) involved in producing the Miami phase.

Good luck.

Paul Hollander

>some questions
> 1. how do i know if the parents are carrying any heterozygous genes?

By pedigree and by breeding results.

> 2. When computing the offspring the results given are nowhere near what last years offspring look like.
>
> This is my first pair of corns and i got to see 1 of last years clutch which the previous owners kept.
> Mother is amenalistic
> Father is a snow
> The offspring i saw had a base colour of pure white with bright red saddles surrounded by a ring of vivid orange.( i thought this was a creamsicle put from what i have read on here and in my corn snake books it just isnt possible the offspring are creamsicles)
>
> Any ideas what i am gonna get ???

All the babies from a snow x amelanistic mating are amelanistic, heterozygous anerythristic.

That youngster sounds like an amelanistic Miami phase (AKA candycane). AFAIK, nobody has worked out the genetics of Miami phase, so it isn't in Mick's corn snake progeny predictor. FWIW, I think Mick's CSPP is the best genetics program available for corns.

Paul Hollander