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Peruvian Boa ?

DanW Apr 23, 2005 08:43 PM

I have seen pics here of absolutely awesome Iquitos Peruvian Boas and some smokin Pucallpa Peruvians. What are the physical differences in the two other then there range? I like Peruvians a lot and hope to buy several in the next few years. Many Peruvians are just listed as Peruvians. Is there any way to differentiate between the two and are they crossed much?

Thanks,
Dan

Replies (7)

ChrisGilbert Apr 23, 2005 09:20 PM

Not many have both locales. Gus Rentfo breeds some of the best of both. Iquitos seem to have bolder patterns, and Pucallpa lighter patterns, both have been bred for yellow color.

whitneywee Apr 24, 2005 12:07 PM

Good question. I have a collection of 5.6 outstanding Peruvians, and I'm not clear on the distinction between Pucullpa and Iquitos myself. The Rio Bravo website touches on it some, but still I'd love more info. Mark

madisonrecords Apr 24, 2005 01:14 PM

I will not claim to be a expert, but I probably have more experiance with Peruvians, than any other local that I have worked with. In the early to late 90s, I had one of the nicest collection of Peruvians around and I use to think that there was a difference between Pucallpa and Iquitos Peruvians and later on, I found out differently. I had some Peruvians that came from the first and second shipment that came in from Ryan Richards Iquitos Farm " Arco International " some of those animals were later sold to Mark Domico and he has produced great with them and posts pics of them frequently. They were the real deal Iquitos and all had either good or very strong connecting patterns. The rest of my collection " outside of one bloodline " came from the Tim Eaton animals that were illegally brought in many years ago and I got alot of those from my friend Scott Michaels and I had some of Jeff Ronnies very best in his group. These animals were supposedly Pucallpa Peruvians, they had floating saddles and were much more yellow than the more bronze or gold and connecting pattern Iquitos. After alot of investigation and talks with some of my friends that new Tim Eaton and these guys are veterans in this Hobby for over 30yrs, I came to find out, that the Tim Eaton animals were in fact from Iquitos and definately not from Pucallpa. I have a good friend that was born and raised half of his life in Iquitos Peru and he says that there is no difference between the two locals and Pucallpa has become more plains and farm land over the last 20-25 years. In essence; " You will find connecting patterns in both regions and floating patterns in both regions and yellow color in both regions and bronze and gold color in both regions. " I have made this statement many times; " If you can track the exact locals of your Peruvians and know it to be fact, then by all means keep the locals straight, but if not, a Peruvian is a Peruvian is a Peruvian and simply breed for the physical characteristics that you like best. Trying to make a difference in an Iquitos Peruvian and a Pucallpa, is like trying to compare Guyanas from Georgetown to Guyanas from New Amsterdam. Gus, may or may not agree, but if he disagrees, I beg to differ with him and I have a enormous amount of respect for Gus and share most of his philosophies on certain locals, but not all. Hope that this helps....GOD BLESS.......Johnson Herp

whitneywee Apr 24, 2005 02:03 PM

Do you still keep any Peruvians? Any pictures Here's one of my favorite females. I don't know the origin or locality, but she's sweet. Thanks. Mark

DanW Apr 24, 2005 03:03 PM

Yes I have seen picture of your boas whitneywee. They are absolutely incredible. Did they all come from Bill Cagle? I am going to try and assemble some Peruvians and I am always looking for as many sources as possible. One of the best Peruvians I have ever seen was produced by Mark Leshock and I think he has Iquitos. She was huge for a yearling and gorgeous yellow.

Thanks,
Dan

whitneywee Apr 24, 2005 04:09 PM

I got several from Bill, but I got some from Justin Higgs, and one of those is of Bill Parks breeding, and a pair from CFRB that are imports. Mark

madisonrecords Apr 24, 2005 05:32 PM

In 1999, I started being on the road alot and may have been home 4 days out of the month. One of the Peruvian females that was a Jeff Ronnie animal and around 70 pounds, almost got my wife and I made a very hard decision to sell out. I have regreted it ever since and should have at least kept all of the babies that I produced that year, instead of selling them to Bill Cagle and a few others. The pair that Barry Miller has on his website, were produced by me and it makes me want to puke every time I see them and the others. Sometimes, in the heat of the situation, we make drastic decisions without thinking. My wife had to come first, but I could have kept the young ones. Now, I am home and have a life again and have aquired some exact locality Surinames and Guyanas and French Guianas. I do miss the Peruvians and it was sad that I finally learned how to be successfull with them and then got out.These damn Surinames, are another story, they baffle me, but I refuse to cool them. I have produced them years ago, along with Columbians and Burms and Peruvians, but I am more of a keeper than a breeder anyway. I just love to clean crap!!......Johnson Herp

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