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RETF enclosure question..

demoniendin Apr 25, 2005 09:45 PM

Im designing a VERY large enclosure (comes out to about 110 gallons) for a colony of tree frogs with a complete water feature and all of that stuff. MY questioniis if there are any species of fish I can put in the water for effect that would be safe for the RETFs to share an enclosure with? I'm thinking small fish such as guppies or some other fish. Anything that might look decent and give the tank somethign to look at even when the RETFs are hidden during the day. They enclosure WILL have live plants, many, including aquatic ones and a filtered system for the water, probably for a waterfall/misting system.

Anyways, so what are your thoughts on the subject. Thankyou fro ANY feedback.

Adrew

Replies (5)

odaacon Apr 26, 2005 02:35 PM

Personally I wouldnt use any fish. Fish secret alot of ammonia which could kill the frogs when they go inside of the water. Seeing as how expensive red eyeds are, I don't think you should take the risk.

demoniendin Apr 26, 2005 02:39 PM

ahhhh... i forgot about that, thanks for reminding me! i guess ill just have to stick A LOT of frogs in that enclosure or something... hmmmm 110 gallons can hold about 200 red eyes, no? i think thats a bit much especially for my funds...

devious_froggy Apr 26, 2005 07:16 PM

I'd stick to under 100 frogs in a 110g tank :P lol wow thats a lot!

i have a 10g fish tank with 10 small fish in it and i've never detected enough ammonia in it to even slightly hurt a frog one the water is properly cycled. keep in mind bacteria build up can throw off ammonia/nitrate levels as well.

I'd be more worried about the frogs trying to eat the fish and choking, or worry for the fishes safety from frog toxins.

you would probbaly be fine if you added a tiny fish or two (as long as the water area is very large, like 10g per fish) and dont over feed the fish. avoid gold fish because they do produce the most ammonia and get really big.

something like white cloud mountain minnows would be good, especially because they dont requier a certain temp. or you could go with cleaner shrip, or other fresh water shrimp.

Good Luck with whatever you do! and I'm expecting to see LOTS of pictures of the setup!!!
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jwthought May 07, 2005 05:58 PM

That setup sound really nice. You might want to take the prolific breeding capabilitiesof the red eyes into account though. They are likely to try to breed at sometime in such a large enclosure and in such a large colony. Their eggs will be laid over the water area and when the tads drop in the water in large concentrations, it could be a problem for the fish or tads. Just a thought. Good Luck

anurotic May 11, 2005 06:14 PM

the people i got my RETFs from had a great set up with a cray fish (crawdad for you from the south) and a big gold fish.

so, i wouldnt worry about it. i mean, the frogs wont be going for swims in the deep water anyhow...the would probably drown!!

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