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hey, ive got a large pacman frog now. id say hes roughly the size of a baseball. lately ive been feeding him only mice, but i'd like to vary his diet. i know they will eat worms and crickets, but because mine is so big and fat he has trouble getting the crickets, even though they are extra large. therefore ive just been feeding him mice. any suggestions how to get him to eat crickets and worms? i know tongs work for the worms but hes so big and wotn always strike at them, and when he does he usually gets the tongs, too. i was thinking of maybe forcing the crickets toward him, but i'm really just not sure what to do. thanks.

Well mice are no good for frogs, they cause fat buildups and make them go blind. Try goldfish they are usually fairly large and cheap, do not use a suppliment while feeding goldfish though, or you may kill your frog with too much calcium. just toss the goldfish right in front of the frog, they can't resist a struggling fish.

great, thanks. you said you keep yours in water? i may try to do the same, i have in bedasbeast with moss on top and with all that stuff its hard for him to get at food without getting a mouthful of moss, too.

I don't know where you get your information, but it simply is not correct. Yes, mice are not good for amphibians, but not because they are too fatty! They have too much Vit A that will eventually lead to metabolic bone disease. They are ok as a supplement, but certainly not as a staple. Goldfish are horrible as feeders, THEY are too fatty. I have never seen any reports on goldfish causing hypervitamintosis of calcium. There are plenty of other acceptabel feeder fish.

Orginal Poster: They frogs are NOT aquatic, continue to use coconut fiber. Continue to try crickets and worms, it has gotten lazy with eating high-energy rodents. Keep trying with the tongs, it is a matter of techique. You can also try breeding your own giant cockroaches. This has been discussed MANY times on this forum, so do a search for more details.
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I'm not sure where you got your information, but there is no fat in fish. They are all protein and bone, the only problem i have ever heard about with feeding them goldfish is that they may contain too much calcium. As for the rodents, there have been numerous studies with quite a bit of proof that the fats(they say lipids, wich is a technical word for fat)cause frogs to go blind.

I have a really good suggestion: Nightcrawler worms. My horned frogs love them and they are more healthy than mice. Mice, if fed too often, can actually contribute to your frog getting lipid buildup on its eyes and going blind. I will admit this happened to me on my first horned frog a few years ago; the pet store said, oh just feed it mice and i did, and he ended up going blind, stumbling around and finally died. i would not use mice at all; my two guys get along fine on nightcrawlers and occasional crickets. I place the frog in a flat rubbermaid container and drop in the worm and chomp, it is gone.
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*~Ginevive~*

You only need to feed an adult pac-man once a week. This way you won't make it obese. I have tried this and it has work very well for me. Can you immagine eating a lot of food until you are stuff and have food sitting in your stomach. These are cold blooded animals and food stay in the stomach for longer period of time. I have read a book published by Barron's and written by Barlett and Barlett, which are one of the leading experts in frog, and he saids, only feed the adult pac-man once a week. I think this is why some frog died of lipid build up. Just because they eat all the time doesn't mean it's good to give food to them. It's a survival machanism because in the wild food is not available all the time and if they can they will gorge themselves on very large meal.

i feed my horned frogs small meals, twice a week. About 4 Nightcrawlers in the beginning, say monday, and a few big crickets over the week. overfeeding is never good.
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*~Ginevive~*

You only need to feed an adult pac-man once a week. This way you won't make it obese. I have tried this and it has work very well for me. Can you immagine eating a lot of food until you are stuff and have food sitting in your stomach. These are cold blooded animals and food stay in the stomach for longer period of time. I have read a book published by Barron's and written by Barlett and Barlett, which are one of the leading experts in frog, and he saids, only feed the adult pac-man once a week. I think this is why some frog died of lipid build up. Just because they eat all the time doesn't mean it's good to give food to them. It's a survival machanism because in the wild food is not available all the time and if they can they will gorge themselves on very large meal.

I have that same book in front of me right now, and it says "Adult ornate horned frogs will not need to eat more than once a week." Nowhere does it say not to cut their feedings into two feedings a week.

The book also mentions feeding them guppies and goldfish, which I *think* are low-fat fish (not that any fish is that high in fat), but I wouldn't surely know. And I've heard a ton about not overfeeding mice because of the high fat content, and that it's been known to make some frogs blind with time, but I don't mean horned frogs or anything. Just throwing in my two cents in hopes of keeping this civil!

You only need to feed an adult pac-man once a week. This way you won't make it obese. I have tried this and it has work very well for me. Can you immagine eating a lot of food until you are stuff and have food sitting in your stomach. These are cold blooded animals and food stay in the stomach for longer period of time. I have read a book published by Barron's and written by Barlett and Barlett, which are one of the leading experts in frog, and he saids, only feed the adult pac-man once a week. I think this is why some frog died of lipid build up. Just because they eat all the time doesn't mean it's good to give food to them. It's a survival machanism because in the wild food is not available all the time and if they can they will gorge themselves on very large meal.

You only need to feed an adult pac-man once a week. This way you won't make it obese. I have tried this and it has work very well for me. Can you immagine eating a lot of food until you are stuff and have food sitting in your stomach. These are cold blooded animals and food stay in the stomach for longer period of time. I have read a book published by Barron's and written by Barlett and Barlett, which are one of the leading experts in frog, and he saids, only feed the adult pac-man once a week. I think this is why some frog died of lipid build up. Just because they eat all the time doesn't mean it's good to give food to them. It's a survival machanism because in the wild food is not available all the time and if they can they will gorge themselves on very large meal.