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albino fact!

ChristopherD Apr 26, 2005 01:30 PM

some of you know i raise african cichlids for a living(trop Fish) I am working w/ a trio of red peacocks the male normal RED poss het Albino and two albino red females , one albino female spit 50/50 albino/reg.heres the kicker,Albino female #2 spit all reg colored remember she is an Albino . and i think he is proven het because the first batch he sired was 50/50 alb. Chris

Replies (16)

Snakesunlimited1 Apr 26, 2005 05:42 PM

Uhh

duffy Apr 26, 2005 08:55 PM

Not quite sure why....But I found that screamingly funny!!! :D

Snakesunlimited1 Apr 27, 2005 05:33 PM

Chris you seem to be offended by the bunny. Don't be its just a bunny.... with a pancake on its head.

If you want a serious response OK fine but remember you posted a fish post on a kingsnake forum. Now for serious queastions. I am assumeing that all the fish are of the same spieces and geographic location right? I ask because I am told that there are something like 400 or 4,000 differant spieces of cichlid. And to compond the situation I am also told that there is variation in the Sp by location. So to move on are the females from the same brood?? Are they full sisters? Do you have that much info if someone else produced them? Where they ever housed with any other male?? Is there more than one kind of albinism for them. Is the trait simple recessive, multi recessive, complex recessive (I think I made that one up)? Does anybody know how it functions. Is the red you mention a genetic morph or is it a descriptive name for the fish? In other words I don't know anything about fish breeding or their traits so I need more info to relate what I do know from snakes to this situation. Otherwise I have no idea what you are talking about. If you said this happened to your snakes I would have known something at least.

I am not trying to be a smarta$$ this time and do want answers to my queastions. I have a guy at work that would also like a list of your available fish. You are the guy based in Miami that I met in Deerfield right?? If so email me a stock list if you could.
Thanks Jason
SnakesUnlimited@SBCGlobal.net

rtdunham Apr 29, 2005 03:18 PM

>>Uhh
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bluerosy Apr 26, 2005 06:28 PM

ChristopherD Apr 27, 2005 11:11 AM

maybe a bunch of Stooges. let me go re-read my post maybe i can simplify it.C

rtdunham Apr 29, 2005 03:20 PM

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mattbrock Apr 26, 2005 07:40 PM

That breaks the rules of genetics IMO. Kinda odd. Be neat to see what the F1 are capable of producing.

duffy Apr 26, 2005 09:02 PM

That with that particular species there are more than one KIND of albino. For example...With black ratsnakes you can cross an albino with an albino and get all normal-looking offspring...Because there are two distinct types with the albino genes carried on different chromosomes. It's the only explanation I can think of, other than the "probability" one, which is extraordinarily unlikely. If you were talking about a snake, for example, and it only laid 4 eggs...And they all came out normal-looking...I would say that's within the reasonable margin of probability. Cichlids, however, have LOTS of babies, so the chances of them all being normal if you're talking about the same "kind" of albinism would be astronomical. Duffy

BobS Apr 26, 2005 10:40 PM

Sorry Chris D...I had too

ChristopherD Apr 27, 2005 11:19 AM

your cool!!!!!!!

Brandon Osborne Apr 27, 2005 12:04 AM

Cichlids, however, have LOTS of babies, so the chances of them all being normal if you're talking about the same "kind" of albinism would be astronomical. Duffy

If you're talking about an albino to a het albino, each baby has a 50% chance of being an albino. They also have a 50% chance of being normal. Just because there we no albinos, doesn't break the "laws" of genetics. The next lot of babies could be all albinos. It evens out over time.

Brandon Osborne

duffy Apr 27, 2005 04:50 PM

You are exactly correct. But even with only 15 offspring, the chances of them ALL being normal (or albino) would be about one in 32,000 ... If there is only one "type" of albinism in this species. Duffy

ChristopherD Apr 27, 2005 11:17 AM

there was 15-20 babies in each spawn.thats the reason im amazed and thought id share my experience w/ the people who can read.Chris

Pondoris Apr 27, 2005 03:44 PM

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ChristopherD Apr 28, 2005 05:33 AM

same select male ! the 2 females are related but im not sure if they are sisters they were albino hold backs from over a year ago.Chris

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