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millipedes or centipedes

tredding Apr 28, 2005 09:36 AM

Ok back to the topic of food for my sonora ground snake. I went on a scavenger trip to find another batch of centipedes. No luck today. I have had luck in the same spot twice. Time to change. I am seriously looking into starting a colon. I have done more research. I am still unclear what it should be eating. I have been putting in small red centipedes and they are all gone. Someone suggeste that it should be eating millipedes, which I have not found nor tried.
Here is the facts:
Centipedes have a small poison that they inject in prey. I am thinking very small crickets that I can get at the store.
Millipedes have no venom and feed off decaying plant matter.
Millipedes would be easier to keep but I do not know if the snake will eat them or if I can find any.
Any thoughts
Travis

Here is a pic of the picky but successful eater!

Replies (5)

tredding Apr 28, 2005 10:02 AM

wow not more than 5 min after this post I went out back of our shop and overturned a decayed piece of plywood and found a colony of very small millipedes. It looks like they just hatched and there are about 50 as well as a few adults. I will see how millipedes work.

HerperHelmz Apr 28, 2005 11:30 AM

Don't try millipedes.

Stick to the red centipedes. Maybe try some crickets with their back legs ripped off.

Mike
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tredding Apr 29, 2005 08:46 AM

you are not worried about the small amount of venom a centipede has? Maybe the snake has a natural immunity to it like a gofer to rattlesnake venom.
T

HerperHelmz Apr 29, 2005 11:17 AM

It's obvious the snake is immune to whatever venom the centipede has. Plus I don't think the snake will accept millipedes.

Hey, went herping yesterday, I must've seen 50 orange centipedes within half an hour.

Mike
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justin stricklin May 02, 2005 10:48 PM

I realy don't think you would want to even try to make a "colony" of centipedes. Even if you did have baby centipedes you would have to remove the babies(very very very tiny. Just big enough to eat maybe a pinhead cricket) from the adults and raise them in seperate containers for several months to maybe over ayear. Millipedes secrete a toxin (that is the bad smell they let off) when threatned and this owul probably be refused then. It may be dangerous to the snake, I don't know. I would suggest either catching your own fire, and stone cntipedes and feeding the snake or find an alternative food source. CEntipedes do have venom. There first set of legs right after their head have evolved over millions of years to become fanglike. It is not the tail that does the envemonating. The venom is pretty strong and some of the larger centipedes such as vietnamese centipedes (scolopendra subspinipes) or other may reach lengths over 9". The record for a centipede is said to have been like 13" for a peruvian giant centipede. I have a vietnamese. But back to the venom, it is not deadly, although there was one death from a vietnamese centipede. They cause EXTREME pain. Morphine does not help. I have heard that from more than one person. I have not been bit by any from the Scolopendra comlex but I have been bit by fire and stone centipedes and they hurt pretty bad. Maybe liek a hornet or something of that. I still can't imagine a snake eating centipedes. I am into the arachnids and myriopods big time so that is why I know what I am talking about. Centipedes are probably the best escape artists on earth for any size that they are, whether 1" or 10". Are you sure they cannot get out. Absolutely sure. Or is there a snkae well known for eating cntipedes? I don' know too much about the small terrestrial snakes so....
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