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hey all, does it matter whether you go with captive hatched vs captive bred? i can see issues cropping up if the baby has traveled long ways during importation and is either stressed or diseased, but it seems that CH vs CB ceases to matter once the baby is acclimated with the new owner. is this correct? any strong preferences between the two types of babies?

thanks!
bruce

CB balls usually are not as aggressive at first, and also are more comfortable to eat once in its new home. also risk of an illness caused to stress are way less in CB.

I have several of each and they are all pretty much the same (temperment, feeding etc.) Never had any problems with CH.

Tom

CH = Captive Hatch (imports)
CB = Captive Born (imports)
CBB = Captive Bred/Born (domestic LOL)

Once healthy, many find very little difference. I would like to point out one thing that goes with imports. Illness can devastate your entire collection. A single import can have IBD and wipe out your entire collection. Keep in mind how these animals are treated before they arrive to you - 200 in a crate and one with IBD and you could be in trouble. Is it worth the risk?

Just food for thought.
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Jay A. Martin
Jay Martin Reptiles

Some do say that the animal is CBB. But many ads simply state that the animal is captive bred. Thanks for the clarification!

Bruce

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Jay A. Martin
Jay Martin Reptiles

Since BPs are not born they are hatched it would be ignorant to say CB stands for captive born (there is no such thing for BPs). CB stands for captive bred, CH stands for captive hatched. At least that is the way it should be and the way it was originally used by the barkers and many of the original captive breeders. CBB is a recent thing that people started using out of ignorance believing that CB stood for captive born.

Since these abbreviations have been bastardized, it is probably better to not use any of them and just state what exactly it is. If you are a buyer, make sure you ask exactly what it is.

then I'd agree. However, these abbreviations are not specific (and thus, limited) to a single species of animal. The abbreviations have been around much longer than the Barkers (no disrespect intended). Whether their true intent has been modified over the year, I'm not up for the debate. However, what is, is, what was, was.

Besides, would captive bred be captive hatched? I mean would someone really breed a female in captivity and then return the eggs to the wild for hatching? I'd say that would be ignorant.
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Jay A. Martin
Jay Martin Reptiles

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>>Besides, would captive bred be captive hatched? I mean would someone really breed a female in captivity and then return the eggs to the wild for hatching? I'd say that would be ignorant.

Not a clue what you are rambling about here, but I am just saying you cannot have a captive born ball python, since ball pythons are not born. Captive bred would obviously mean hatched in captivity as well.

If you do have any "captive born" balls I'd be the first to buy them, live young from a ball python...that would be great!

Mind if I ask? Why so nit picky about 'born' and 'hatched'? Everything is born. Isn't hatching from an egg a birth? Curious in Michigan.

Quig

>>Mind if I ask? Why so nit picky about 'born' and 'hatched'? Everything is born. Isn't hatching from an egg a birth? Curious in Michigan.
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>>Quig

Technically born means the emergence and separation of offspring from the body of the mother. Hatched means to emerge from or break out of an egg.
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Tosha

"Of course, this is just my opinion...and I believe I am God." -- Christopher Bianco

8.15.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and currently un-named)
1.0.0 Angolan Python
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Dessert Tortoise (Pope)
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.3 Lizards rescued from pool skimmer

OK, since ya put it that way.

Quig