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housing snakes together?

manakawari May 02, 2005 09:56 PM

im thinking about getting another chondro.can my existing snake and the newcomer be housed together if the enclosure was large enough?

Replies (9)

SHHAWKE May 03, 2005 01:45 AM

i am saying no.............

trust me its not a goot idea.... good way to spread disease...

just dont do it... build a new cage before you get the other one... it only takes 5 seconds for the new guy to drop mites ect in the cage...

shiloh
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Shiloh Hawkesworth
kansas
(Midwest Serpents)

manakawari May 03, 2005 12:15 PM

besides health issues,are there any other reasons? i mean,im not going to do it if you guys think its a bad idea,but do same sexes fight or anything like that?? im asking because if i do seperate them,what about being right next to each other with a glass divider?will it stress them out being able to see other snakes?

Julian Garcia May 03, 2005 12:30 PM

My animals are able to see each other and for the most part they do not notice one another, until feeding time. They will sometimes strike when im feeding the chondro next too them or extend their bodies to see what's going on next too them.
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iceyesnteeth May 03, 2005 02:33 PM

thats a really nice setup...thats exactly what i am looking for.did you build that cage or buy it?? please let me know,i wanna get the same setup.

Julian Garcia May 03, 2005 07:18 PM

www.pocket-pets.com

Is where i got the enclosures from. Tell them i sent you and he should know what you're refering too.

the heat panels i got from pro products (the smallest ones they make). These are also NOT adult enclosures. They are used for juv-yearling enclosures. Babies are in tubs, juv's are in acrylic, adults are in 24" cubes.

-Julian

iceyesnteeth May 03, 2005 08:10 PM

thanks man..i really dig those things...yea my snake is about 18 months...so you suggest the 24"? after i get my snake sexed,im going to buy another and give breeding a shot when they are both old enough.if i buy 2 24",one for each..will i need a seperate larger enclosure for breeding? oh yea..i asked this question before and got no answer..where should i go to have my snake sexed?

Julian Garcia May 04, 2005 12:29 AM

24" is about he smallest i would go for adult chondros. It's hard to say weather or not your chondro should be moved up to an adult enclosure. I usualy dont see any need to move them to large adult cages until about 2 years of age even so. These guys dont grow that fast.

You can introduce the male into the females enclosure, thats fine. Or the female in to the males enclosure if the one is overly agressive.

Also 1.1 will give you very poor odds at breeding.. Ask any breeder- some chondros just wont work together, the'll show no intrest. I would say a 4.2 breeding group will strengthen your odds.

As for getting your snaked sexed - look for a chondro keeper around you or any person of vet who has experience. Post on chondroweb.com or moreliaviridsforum.com if you're looking for a local.

-JG

thanks man..i really dig those things...yea my snake is about 18 months...so you suggest the 24"? after i get my snake sexed,im going to buy another and give breeding a shot when they are both old enough.if i buy 2 24",one for each..will i need a seperate larger enclosure for breeding? oh yea..i asked this question before and got no answer..where should i go to have my snake sexed?

Julian Garcia May 03, 2005 12:23 PM

Males will kill eachother if housed together.

I've heard of cohabitation with 1.1 or 1.2 being housed together with out a problem. However, I've had a female snatch a male off his perches, due too a strong feeding response (they were housed together for breeding) and I hear from other breeders this is not uncommon.

The cons simply out weight the pros 10 fold. I would not do it.

5rings May 13, 2005 10:35 AM

I just had a mortifying experience with two young juvies housed together. I got in 6 GTPs in 3 weeks ago and had 5 empty cages.
I separated the older ones and put the two smallest in a large cage together until I can get their cages built. They have been feeding great (they are complete pigs), drinking well and moving around the cage happy and healthy. Last night after feeding them both one attacked the other and tried to eat her. They were locked onto each others jaws and coiled around each other. I thought it was an isolated event and after prying them apart and calming them down a bit I placed them back together. The harmony lasted about 2 seconds and this time the fight was even more vicious than the first. After prying them apart a second time I had learned my lesson. I got an old aquarium out of the closet for the night and will have new cages for both after Saturday. Lesson well learned.

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