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agrus monitors (some questions)/(requested pics)

reptile30 May 03, 2005 11:15 AM

hey everyone im thinking of getting an argus monitor i just have some questions about them.

what would be getter to get a male or feamale, i want something some what big but also want it to tripod some what alot.

do they tame easy(like with regular handling)

as adult how many mice/rats are they eating a day(what size)

how much do they cost

who is a good breeder to get them from(how about nerd see them have 04 babys for 250)

for the cage
i was thinking of a 5'long by 3'wide by4'high cage
2 ft of dirt
a front glass window
a wood open top(lift up so i can open it)
all wood
a 2'by2'by10" hide/bask box
a large water dish(cat pan)
and some branches for basking

lighting
1 150w basking bulb
1 100w basking bulb
1 150 cemic/250 cemic heater

thanks

and for the pic
can some people post some pic of there argus cages and there agrus monitons being held by there owner(with a size refference like the monitor is 3 ft im 5'6"

thanks again

Replies (7)

lwcamp May 03, 2005 02:39 PM

>>what would be getter to get a male or feamale, i want something
>>some what big but also want it to tripod some what alot.

Both sexes tripod a lot. Males get huge, around 5 feet. Females stay smaller, around 3 feet. If you are thinking of getting a hatchling (which I recommend), this consideration is irrelevant since they are impossible to sex at that age.

You will quickly find that while large size is really impressive, it is also a hell of a lot of work, and gets old really fast.

>>do they tame easy(like with regular handling)

No. They remain jumpy and skittish their entire lives. They are reluctant to bite, but have no hesitation about scratching up your arms something awful when trying to escape your grasp.

>>as adult how many mice/rats are they eating a day(what size)

As much as they possibly can. They'll eat 'till they burst. As for how many/much should you feed them to keep them healthy? That depends on a number of variables so it is difficult to make hard and fast rules. I obtained good results feeding about a mouse per day on average, but you will need to judge your own animals for yourself.

>>how much do they cost

Enclosure: $500 to $1000
Heating: about $100 per month (at least in winter in upstate NY)
Feeding: about $30 per month (very roughly)
Vet bills: Who knows, but expect to occasionally pay through the nose to keep your pet healthy.
Argus monitor hatchling: $250 to $350

>>who is a good breeder to get them from(how about nerd see them
>>have 04 babys for 250)

I've never bought anything from NERD, so I cannot endorse them.

>>for the cage
>>i was thinking of a 5'long by 3'wide by4'high cage

too small, especially if you end up with a male.

>>2 ft of dirt

Good!

>>a front glass window
>>a wood open top(lift up so i can open it)

For a cage this size, I prefer sliding side panels, but that's just me.

>>all wood

careful it does not rot with the moisture, heat and humidity

>>a 2'by2'by10" hide/bask box

With the dirt, you really do not need a hide/bask box

>>a large water dish(cat pan)
>>and some branches for basking

All sounds good

>>lighting
>>1 150w basking bulb
>>1 100w basking bulb
>>1 150 cemic/250 cemic heater

This all varies a lot with the exact details of your cage set-up. Once you have your cage made and set up, put in various bulbs and measur ethe temperatures. Change bulb wattages and types until you get something you can use. One youngster I have is getting acceptable temps with 4 100 watt incandescents, a male in a larger cage needs only 4 60 watt incandescents. Heck if I can explain the difference.

>>and for the pic
>>can some people post some pic of there argus cages and there
>>agrus monitons being held by there owner(with a size refference
>>like the monitor is 3 ft im 5'6"

this cage is too tall to heat efficiently, I now prefer to make them shorter

male

female

For size comparisons, the guy in the photos above (me) is 193 centimeters (6 foot 4 inches, roughly) tall.

Luke

drzrider May 03, 2005 03:32 PM

Luke, that was very thorough. I bet you spent an hour replying to the post.

The original post also showed a lot of thought.

I love Argus. Not because I can hold and play with them. I love them because they are active, inquisitive, and fairly hardy. Alas I have no Argus now though.
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Ed

These heat lamps make my electric bill to high.

lwcamp May 04, 2005 10:02 AM

>>The original post also showed a lot of thought.

Indeed. I was impressed he'd done as much research as he had, and came here looking for more, asking the right questions.

>>I love Argus. Not because I can hold and play with them. I
>>love them because they are active, inquisitive, and fairly
>>hardy.

Absolutely. Beautiful, impressive, full of attitude and energy, always keep you on your toes.

>>Alas I have no Argus now though.

Such is the way life goes, sometimes (I've been there myself). Good luck finding yourself in a position where you can acquire more if you so choose.

Luke

vmelinus May 03, 2005 05:13 PM

I have a male Argus/Gouldii cross, about 3 1/2 feet long. I won't add to Luke's post cause he did a great job. My enclosure is 7x5x4 feet and built into a wall in my house. I use 2 45 watt floods and 2 90 watt floods for heat, and about 2 feet of dirt for digging.



Dave

LIZARDLOVER11 May 03, 2005 09:38 PM

i'm 5'8", and my argus was only about 27"-30",and now is 33"-34"ad just found out shes 3.2lbs
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drzrider May 04, 2005 01:20 PM

This Argus was 3 feet long. You can see the limbs behind my wife in this cage.

A full grown male would need a larger cage so I build this one so I can easily double its size. The cage is 4x4x7 as it sits there. My wife is about 5'6"

Link

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Ed

These heat lamps make my electric bill to high.

drzrider May 04, 2005 01:20 PM

here is the link
Image
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Ed

These heat lamps make my electric bill to high.

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