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Should I use a heat source for my eastern worm snakes, or will they thrive at room temperature.

caecilianman02 May 04, 2005 11:28 AM

I am using a moisture gradient, but how about heating?
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1.0 Western green toad
1.1 green treefrogs
1.0 Florida blue garter snake
1.1 Oriental fire-bellied toads
1.0 American bullfrog
0.1 Spanish ribbed newt
0.0.1 Eastern ribbon snake
1.1 red-cheeked mud turtles
0.1 Dubia day gecko
1.0 Sonoran gopher snake
1.1 rough green snakes
1.1 giant African black millipedes
1.0 Okeetee corn snake
0.1 Albino African clawed frog
1.0 Kenyan sand boa
0.0.1 Argentine flame-bellied toadlet
0.0.1 African bullfrog
1.0 yellow * Everglades rat snake intergrade
1.1 Western hognose snakes
1.2 fire salamanders
1.1 scarlet kingsnakes
0.0.1 scarlet snake
0.0.1 Argentine horned frog
1.1 Southern ringneck snakes
0.0.1 night snake
0.0.1 Florida brown snake
0.1 Pine woods snake
1.0 rough earth snake
0.1 (parthenogenic) Brahminy blind snake
0.1 Northern brown snake
1.1 Eastern worm snakes

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HerperHelmz May 04, 2005 12:23 PM

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caecilianman02 May 04, 2005 04:50 PM

I want to make this habitat a perfect recreation of a Pennsylvania pine forest. I am ordering a 1.1 pair, one of which the seller says is very gravid, as well as absolutely huge. This is what I have so far:

I am using a 10-gallon glass aquarium with tight-fitting lid. In one corner of the tank, I have a PVC pipe about 1" in diameter securely glued into place, running from the lid to about one centimeter from the bottom of the setup. As a substrate, 75% of the vivarium's floor is topped with about 7-8 inches of loose, sandy soil, pre-frozen to kill any parasites. The remaining 25% is completely dry cypress mulch.
The side with the soil is on the same side as the pipe, which I have filled with bottled spring water. This has made the bottom level of this area very moist, while the mulch area remains completely dry, as well as the top of the soil, covered in a thin layer of sand. Above the large soil area is a mixture of twigs, true sphagmun moss, small pinecones, and small moist piles of dead leaves, lightly misted with water.
On the soil side I have planted a large boston fern, while on the dry side, is a large flat piece of black slate, layed across the surface, with some dead leaves on top. A small basking lamp, situated above the slate, keeps the rock warm at all times, so that the snakes have a thermal gradient.
Finally, I am using a clay saucer as a water basin. What do you think?
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DAVE

1.0 Western green toad
1.1 green treefrogs
1.0 Florida blue garter snake
1.1 Oriental fire-bellied toads
1.0 American bullfrog
0.1 Spanish ribbed newt
0.0.1 Eastern ribbon snake
1.1 red-cheeked mud turtles
0.1 Dubia day gecko
1.0 Sonoran gopher snake
1.1 rough green snakes
1.1 giant African black millipedes
1.0 Okeetee corn snake
0.1 Albino African clawed frog
1.0 Kenyan sand boa
0.0.1 Argentine flame-bellied toadlet
0.0.1 African bullfrog
1.0 yellow * Everglades rat snake intergrade
1.1 Western hognose snakes
1.2 fire salamanders
1.1 scarlet kingsnakes
0.0.1 scarlet snake
0.0.1 Argentine horned frog
1.1 Southern ringneck snakes
0.0.1 night snake
0.0.1 Florida brown snake
0.1 Pine woods snake
1.0 rough earth snake
0.1 (parthenogenic) Brahminy blind snake
0.1 Northern brown snake
1.1 Eastern worm snakes

HerperHelmz May 04, 2005 10:32 PM

Honestly, I think you are over-doing it. You are making it more complicated than it should be. A 10 gallon tank is good, I have mine in a 5 gallon plastic kritter keeper. Use soil or mulch, not much of it, depending on how you plan on feeding it. If you want to keep track of how much it eats, and you want to see it eat, don't use layers and layers of substrate, 1 inch of soil will do. If you have no plans to keep feeding records, put as much substrate in there as you want, and throw a bunch of worms in each week.

Mine has less than a inch of soil, a container full of moss, and a couple pieces of cut up newspaper to hide under. I spray the enclosure every 2 days, and the snake hides out in the container of moss.

They are not going to drink out of a waterbowl, just spray the enclosure every once and a while.

Mike
Michael's Place

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wombat May 06, 2005 09:36 PM

Are worm snakes oviporous or viviporous? any pics of eggs/newborns?

BTW C-man I just got a caecilian at my local fish shop- very cool critter, a geat addition to my 75 gal rainbow tank.

caecilianman02 May 07, 2005 11:27 PM

Hi,

All worm snakes are oviporous. Do a google image search, and you will find a picture of some worm snake eggs hatching.
I am glad to hear that you have entered the wonderful world of caecilians. Beautiful, colorful caecilians...
Typhlonectes was my first species. They are very hardy. I have also kept the terrestrial Mexican Dermophis. They only lived about two years, but were fascinating little critters. Try giving it bloodworms, and a nice, heavy, hollow rock to hide in. I kept many notes on what I observed, that are still in folders. In addition, I have a collection of offprints written by the caecilian wizard, Taylor, who wrote the only published work known on caecilians, titled "The Caecilians of The World." They are very interesting, so keep me updated on anything unusual that you might observe. There is still much to be learned.
For example, I was the first person known to have observed Typhlonectes vocalizing. Until then, they were recognized as voiceless creatures.
Good luck with the caecilian!
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DAVE

1.0 Western green toad
1.1 green treefrogs
1.0 Florida blue garter snake
1.1 Oriental fire-bellied toads
1.0 American bullfrog
0.1 Spanish ribbed newt
0.0.1 Eastern ribbon snake
1.1 red-cheeked mud turtles
0.1 Dubia day gecko
1.0 Sonoran gopher snake
1.1 rough green snakes
1.1 giant African black millipedes
1.0 Okeetee corn snake
0.1 Albino African clawed frog
1.0 Kenyan sand boa
0.0.1 Argentine flame-bellied toadlet
0.0.1 African bullfrog
1.0 yellow * Everglades rat snake intergrade
1.1 Western hognose snakes
1.2 fire salamanders
1.1 scarlet kingsnakes
0.0.1 scarlet snake
0.0.1 Argentine horned frog
1.1 Southern ringneck snakes
0.0.1 night snake
0.0.1 Florida brown snake
0.1 Pine woods snake
1.0 rough earth snake
0.1 (parthenogenic) Brahminy blind snake
0.1 Northern brown snake
1.1 Eastern worm snakes

wombat May 07, 2005 11:43 PM

Not to cross-post too much...

I'll put a pic of it up in the Caecilian Forum...

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