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Can anybody help me with getting some panacur, i dont know where to get it. thanks
josh

the best place to get it from would be like a southern states or a horse feed and supply store.

I'm sorry, but you should really not try to deal with pancure yourself, as the dosing is critical. This stuff is made for equine medicine for gods sake, and your going to put it in an animal that weighs something like 1/120000th the mass of a large horse (50g gecko/600kg horse).

Please consider going to a vet and having them make you a proper dilution and, as easy as it sounds, do the dosing math, as they do it all the time, and one miss-carried decimal could cost the life of your gecko.

Jared
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I'm going to support that point of view. Too often are people trying to save money by doing it themselves. Unless you work at a zoo or are a vet tech or just have a hell of a lot of experience with medicating animals in general, you really shouldn't do any medicating yourself. Some of us on here have that background, but I am fairly sure that because you don't know where to look you don't have that much experience.

Here's a good statement. Anyone who makes any reference to medicating their animals at home without experienced help on this forum and then emails me about purchasing a gecko will not get a response from me. I am not going to send my animals to anyone who doesn't care about their animals.

BTW, if you buy animals from michael cole, he medicates them before they get to you - he knows what he's doing.

Jason

You have to know your subjects well - gravid females and other "compromised" (per se) animals cant be medicated safely. You have to have a working knowledge of the drug, and its effects on the body.
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Now thats what I'm talking about!!!

BOY AND LEAH,

i would like to take the time for thanking you in insulting my knowledge in reptiles. all i asked for was where to get some panacur and you two blow up saying, you dont have experience, i wouldnt sell to people like you, all because i asked where i could get my hands on some panacur. I read this forum to better my reptile knowledge, thats what this forum is here for, to ask ?'s, and help eachother out, not to do what you two did. How do you know if i have treated animals or not, you dont, by me asking where to get panacur doesnt mean i dont have experience. i know where to get some, lets try Farm and Fleet, little bit expensive there, i just wanted to know if maybe you guys get it cheaper, and see where you get it from. But thanks alot

JOSH

i think you mistook their suggestions as it is easy for seriousness of the matter to get lost over the computer. both are regulars around here just looking out for you and more importantly your geckos. we are a very friendly bunch around here and do our best to keep it that way. i cannot necessarily speak for either of them, but they are experienced with various reptiles and were most likely trying to emphasize the importance of not trying to self-medicate without proper guidance.

that is all.

I really don't need you to sell to me. I do enough importing to know where I'm going to get a great deal, and to be honest I won't get what I'm looking for from most people. Plain and simple. I don't treat my animals for parasites, I've lost enough animals, green tree pythons in particular, to vets over medicating them. I don't think there is a reason to do so unless absolutely necessary. Unless I outwardly see parasites in their fecals or crawling around in a water bowl, its not worth it to me, they don't need that added stress.

If you think I was being insulting, think again. This is a public forum where new comers have a tendency to want to save money or do it themselves because they get "the arrogance," you know the "I've got this animal at home and you don't so I know what I'm doing" attitude. Now, I'm not saying that you are one of these people nor am I saying you are not, nor am I saying you are a newcomer. That doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is that people who don't know what they are doing treat their animals without getting the right information or without having some one experienced to help.

Now where in that am I wrong with my statement. On a public forum do you think that any random "I just got my first satanic leaf tailed gecko, it was wild caught so it must have parasites" keeper is going to take the advice they read about where to get meds and treat their animal themself? Sorry I've been around the block to know most newbies would. My father did it. I did it, and hell I know at some point most of us have done it to. That is why I made my statement. And I sure as hell won't take it back because it won't matter if the med will kill the animal or not, it matters that some moron will pop up on the forum, read it and do it with any meds.

So before you call me an arrogant bastard think about the industry your in and how dumb a lot of new comers are.

Jason

I have to agree with Jason on this.

We have all made our mistakes in dealing with Herps and herp vets. I know I lost way to Many Bearded dragons to the "Yellow Fungus" than I care to mention. There are a lot of people out there that dont have good information and hand it out like it is candy at a daycare. Even though I am by no means a stranger to the hobby I have only medcated one Uroplatus for any kind of parasite and I ended up loosing him. I know that I have done a lot of medacating on my other herps but the Uroplatus are verrrrrry tough to work with and are not as forgiving as some of my other herps.

My wife and I have a very large colection of uroplatus that seems to grow by the day and I have the meds to do it but I am not going to unless it is absolutly nessary. That kind of stress is extremly rough on them and they seem to decline rapidly after medicating.

I know that there are to many people out there that think there is a shortage of leaf tails and I am going to be a millionare if I get them now! Grab as many as they can and they all die due to lack of knowlage. Then the do it again and come on the the forum and ask how do I fix this you know what I am talking and then there is the clasic NEWBIE! Who just got his/her first leaf tails and wants to medicate them right away!

The reason I come to this forum for advice. I may not like what I am hearing and some of it seams odd at times but mostof the regulars have done it and they have made the mistakes that I am tring to avoid. I have taken lots of advice form Jason, Ben, Eve and Leah and never had any problems with any of it. Infact I am waiting to return to the states (YES I am still in IRAQ) to pick up a rather large shippment of leaf tails form Jason. I trust he is taking great care of them be cause he knows what he is doing.

So if you dont like what you are hearing sorry but I know a lot of people on the forum know their stuff and I take most of it to heart when it somes to leaf tails. My herps are family to me and I am not going to take a chance in loosing one of them to a mistake that could have been avoided.

Try to come here with an open mind and enjoy your experance here. Who knows you might learn something! Or you could contruibute to helping others!

Thanks

Mike
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Mike & Cherly Garrett
Critters Unlimited
Houston TX

6.8.0 U.Phantasticus
1.7.1 Crested Geckos
1.1.0 Leopard Geckos
1.3.0 U.Sikoare
1.1.0 U.Pietschmanni
0.0.1 Ball Python
And still growing!!

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=840&Ntt=panacur&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode matchallpartial&Np=1&N=0&Nty=1

I use that same stuff to worm all my geckos and there IS PLENTY ROOM FOR ERROR!

I accidently gave a Uroplatus sikore enough for about a 5lb dog one time and he is still alive to this day! Kept right on eating, NO ILL EFFECTS!

NP

A common Panacur treatment regime is to simply dust crickets with a Panacur powder... Even though it’s an equine medication, this drug is very forgiving as far as experts know… This is the ONLY one of a few common hard-lined reptile medications that I will ever suggest having room for error… Although it still takes knowledge and experience to treat with, it’s been shown to be nearly impossible to OD animals with it…
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Ben

Hey Thanks for helping out, unlike other cocky people

Sorry you took it wrong.
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With great power, comes great responsibility.
-Ben Parker