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the beauty of hondo morphs

rtdunham May 07, 2005 02:40 PM

I thought this was a nice mood shot of two of the morphs.

The female's a tangerine albino possible het hypo; the male-on-the-move is a ghost possible het albino. So I'm testing the genes of both animals. At a minimum, I'll get triple hets. But it could be better:

If the female IS het hypo, they'll produce babies half of which will be hypo double het for anery and albino, and half will be triple hets. Any hypo babies will prove she IS het hypo.

If the male IS het albino, I'll get babies half of which are albinos double het for anery and hypo. Any albino babies from the clutch will prove he IS het/albino.

And if they're BOTH het for those possibilities--
--if the pairing is in fact albino het/hypo X ghost het/albino--
--I'll get babies which (if this top-of-my-head calculation is correct) will be 1/4 hypos double het; 1/2 albinos het anery and either het/hypo or homozygous hypo (hybino); and 1/4 triple hets. Somebody correct me if i'm wrong with any of those details. More importantly, armed with the knowledge of their full genotypes i'll be able to take even better advantage of them next year.

They've copulated three or four times now.

terry

Replies (4)

BallPython13 May 07, 2005 02:44 PM

Nice Snakes. Scott Glover

Conserving_herps May 09, 2005 09:46 AM

Hi Terry,

You stated : Somebody correct me if i'm wrong with any of those details.

Response: You wanted someone to correct your numbers and I'd say you are correct.

For your paragraph that stated : If the male IS het albino, I'll get babies half of which are albinos double het for anery and hypo. Any albino babies from the clutch will prove he IS het/albino.

Response: I think you just forgot to indicate that the other half would be triple hets... right?

Last comment from me: I can't wait to see what you are gonna produce this year and continue the discussion, especially when it comes to honduran genetics. I am so jazzed about it and would be fun to continue open discussions with you in this forum.

Thanks,
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RAY

Conserving_herps May 09, 2005 09:54 AM

Oh, I also forgot to mention that this pic of the ghost mating/going around the tangerine albino is a great picture indeed. I do photography and oil painting on the side and this photograph can easily measure up and be seen on a glossy page of the National Geographic Society magazine. Did you use a 35 mm camera, and if so, what camera and specifics did you use?

Thanks again,
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RAY

rtdunham May 13, 2005 12:14 AM

first of all, yes, the other half would be triple hets. and if the albino's NOT het or hypo, all the babies will be triple hets.

thanks for the kind words about the pic. it was taken with a digital nikon 5000 with the ring light. i didn't have time to edit it in photoshop but once the lighting and contrast on the head is brought up to par with the rest of the albino, it really will pop. i'm thinking it might be the cover pic for the hondo book i'm going to write some day.

terry

ps: yeah, there is gonna be a lot of fun stuff this year in both the hondos and the pyros, things like hypo hondos double het for anery and amel, maybe a triple homozgyous animal, a reasonable shot at a true definite hybino, and the chance to see some hypos out of an extreme x "regular" hypo mating, plus in the pyros a clutch that could produce hybinos, etc., etc. TD

>>Oh, I also forgot to mention that this pic of the ghost mating/going around the tangerine albino is a great picture indeed. I do photography and oil painting on the side and this photograph can easily measure up and be seen on a glossy page of the National Geographic Society magazine. Did you use a 35 mm camera, and if so, what camera and specifics did you use?
>>
>>Thanks again,
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>>RAY

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