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BUILDIN A BURM CAGE

CaligotPythons May 08, 2005 05:57 PM

im buildin a cage that total is gonna be 7'4" and then on casters

its gonna be two seperate cages

how its gonna be divided from top to bottom:

10" - space for lighting and heating
34" - cage for my 2 Jungle Carpet Pythons
10" - space for lighting and heating
34" - cage for my Alb. Burmese Python

Depth : 36"

Width : 72"

the whole eclosure is gonna be framed in metal and then all glass

with both cages having double sliding glass doors

on top of both cages its gonna be divided into 3 equal sections of screen or wire on each end and glass in the middle

i know it may be a tad high for the burmese but im sure because of it being glass and adding another heat lamps i should be able to keep it at a sufficient temp

what do you think?
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0.0.2 Morelia Spilota Cheyni - Jungle Carpet Pythons

Replies (10)

burmaboy May 08, 2005 06:59 PM

I keep both jungle carpets and burms, and I feel your dimensions are way too small. You mention in another post, that your burm is 4lbs.I'm thinking it's a very young burm.
Late 2004 maybe.
That 34" cage will hold a burm for all of hmmmmmm...8 months if fed properly. Maybe longer because you are using more depth.
At that point you will need a wayyy bigger enclosure, and each one of those JCs will need its own enclosure of at least 48"
My burms are in enclosures of 8ft long, by 30inches deep. And they are out often for exercise.
My JCs are in 75 gal fish tanks...48 long,and 18 deep.These seem to be more than sufficient. Lots of room to climb too.
These are adults of about 6 1/2 ft.
Give your snakes more room. And this way you wont have to build another cage a year from now.
I build a lot of my own cages, and for your needs, I would make a bottom cage of 8ft long, and another on top of it, 8ft, divided into two 4ft cages.These will last you a life time.
AND...give you a place to put another cage on top so you can get another snake!

Caligotpythons May 08, 2005 07:31 PM

ohh no my cage isnt gonna be 34" long its gonna be atleast 6ft long x 36" depth x 34" high

which is a total of 2592 in. sq.

but im leaning now more toward 7'long x 36" depth x 34" high

which is a total of 3024 in. sq.

and your cage is 8' x 30'

so thats 2880 in. sq.

so if i go with the 7 ft wide ill have 144" in sq. or 1 sq. ft. more of ground space then you so i figure that should be enough for along time right?

thats just my bottom cage and the top will be the same but for my two jungle carpets so i figure for two jungle carpets thats plentyas well as 34" high for climbin

WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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1.1 Morelia Spilota Cheyni - Jungle Carpet Pythons
1.0 Albino Burmese Python

burmaboy May 08, 2005 07:49 PM

So each cage will be that length, the bottom one using the ful space for the burm, and the top one for your JCs? Together?
Or will you be dividing it in half? One half each for each of the JCs?
With the height for the top, and the length, and the depth you mention. That should be sufficient for all.
The height for the burm though should be limited to 18"-24" max, due to heating and humidity concerns. And for heating an enclosure that size,use radiant heat panels.

burmaboy May 08, 2005 07:55 PM

34" - cage for my 2 Jungle Carpet Pythons
10" - space for lighting and heating
34" - cage for my Alb. Burmese Python
Copied and pasted from your post.
This is where I got the idea of the 34" cage space for each animal.
What is the screen ends you describe for?

Caligotpythons May 08, 2005 08:00 PM

>>34" - cage for my 2 Jungle Carpet Pythons
>>10" - space for lighting and heating
>>34" - cage for my Alb. Burmese Python
>>Copied and pasted from your post.
>>This is where I got the idea of the 34" cage space for each animal.
>>What is the screen ends you describe for?

ohh thats the height of each section of the whole thing thing i was talking about from the ground up meaning

that the 34" height of first cage for the burm and then 10" section above that for lighting fixtures and what not then another 34" tall cage then another 10" section
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1.1 Morelia Spilota Cheyni - Jungle Carpet Pythons
1.0 Albino Burmese Python

Caligotpythons May 08, 2005 08:16 PM

>>What is the screen ends you describe for?

basically the top of each cage is either gonna be divided:

28" wire - 28" glass - 28" wire

or possibly

just 28" wire - 56" of glass

for the top you get what im saying?

the wire section is for sitting heat lamps and what not on and also air
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1.1 Morelia Spilota Cheyni - Jungle Carpet Pythons
1.0 Albino Burmese Python

burmaboy May 08, 2005 08:50 PM

I would rethink the screen part of the tops. Use radiant heat panels instead of lights. That would allow you to eliminate that 10" of space for light on the top of each cage.
The screen tops, and 34" height will make it nearly impossible to maintain humidity in the burms enclosure.

Caligotpythons May 08, 2005 11:39 PM

ok so if i did away with the screen and used the panels

then i could devide the cage into 3 cages stacked on top of eachother

so the very bottom be 24" high for the burmese then the middle be another 24" high for my next burmese i get and then the top can be 36" high for my jungle carpets

does that sound better

ohh and btw i found out that im possibly going to be buildin it 8ft wide and 4 ft deep

so if i divide the top cage in half would 4 ft wide 4 feet deep and 3 ft high be sufficient for a single jungle carpet?

also how much do these panels retail for?

what about the flourascent(sp?) light bulbs for seein and what not

well nvm since the cage will be all glass
and between each cage ill put a layer down on the bottom of like black tarp or something so the snakes wont be able to see eachother

what do you think?
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1.1 Morelia Spilota Cheyni - Jungle Carpet Pythons
1.0 Albino Burmese Python

caligotpythons May 09, 2005 12:03 AM

im his bro and i think that our jungle carpet pythons are male and female i dont think we will be getting another burm soon till 2 years when my bro moves out because my parents are not reall fond of our snakes
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1.1 Morelia Spilota Cheyni - Jungle Carpet Pythons
1.0 Albino Burmese Python

burmaboy May 09, 2005 08:25 PM

So let me see if I'm getting this right.
One cage will be approx 8ft long, 4ft deep, and 2 ft high.
This will hold a burm. So far do I have it?
The top cage will be the same size, except 3 ft high, and divided in half, each holding one JCP?
These panels are kind of pricey. around $150 to heat a cage the size of the burms cage.
And why all glass? I build my enclosures from birch or oak plywood.
I'm not so sure plain glass will contain an adult burm.
Tempered would be safer, though hard to work with.
An all glass cage might stress the snakes out too much.
Any more cage questions...post them in the caging forums.
While we are talking about a cage for burms, we are getting a bit off topic here.
Besides, by posting there you'll get lots of suggestions.
See you there.

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