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how many tincs

agcarf May 09, 2005 07:27 PM

How many tincs do you think is okay in a 50-60 gallon tank?
What about mixing them with aboreal species like pumilio?
Thanks

Replies (4)

slaytonp May 10, 2005 01:52 PM

Some people suggest keeping tincs in pairs only due to their wrestling competition, but others keep more, so I'm not much help here.

However, I would not mix them with pumilio. While pumilio are ostensible arboreal, mine utilize all levels of their vivarium, including the sump hole. They are also extremely territorial and really should be kept in mated pairs or in a large enough tank they can have separate territories where they can't see each other. Also, if you have bromeliads for the pumilio, the tincs are likely to also want the utilize these, especially when they are younger and not yet heavy. The terms arboreal and terrestrial mean less when one is talking about a vivarium that is perhaps only 20 inches from substrate to top.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus

mydumname May 10, 2005 03:37 PM

Male pumilio are aggressive with frogs of other species, even those, 2-3 times the size (like tincs). As far as tincs go, 2 is usual, but some have kept them in groups. With tincs, the females are the aggressive one so a trio of 2.1 would be better.

My recommendation would be to get a species more suitable for grouping such as leucs or auratus. Vents would due to, but they of course wouldn't stand out as much due to their size. Oh, terribilis would work good in groups also.

slaytonp May 10, 2005 05:55 PM

I agree with you about the better group species, especially P. terribilis. (I have four mint green in an 80 gallon bow tank.) While green may seem like a rather dull color for a frog, especially if you like them for the jewel colors, this particular green is rather striking and different. It seems to glow. While each has it's own particular hide for night, they are all out together hunting during the day with no signs of not getting along. They are so bold, they don't even bother to hop away when I'm messing around in the tank, and jump out whenever I'm feeding to get right under the falling goodies.

That's interesting about the pumilios attacking larger frogs. I do know they attack each other unless they are a 1:1 pair, or widely separated, but I've never tried mixing them with anything else. Their full use of all levels of the tank as well as their territorality seemed enough not to think of trying it. Come to think of it, I just remembered that there is a photo in JEWELS OF THE RAINFOREST of a pumilio attacking a much larger tinc from behind. (page 282.) It's pretty funny, since the caption says, "No comment." It looks more like copulation between a male Chihuahua and a Great Dane than a frog fight. But it does illustrate how aggressive these little Chihuahua's of the Rainforest can be.

My female galactonotus and the female leucomelas will sometimes sit on one another and rock around a bit, but it's nothing like a full on wrestling match. With all of the species I've kept so far, any serious aggression seems to be among the females.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus

agcarf May 10, 2005 07:55 PM

I pretty much knew what you guys were going to say about mixing species but as I understand it now its not a good idea to mix more than 3 tincs in a 50 gallon?
Maybe I'll put a group of 5 or 6 golden mantellas in there,
Thanks

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