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I was sent this pic today. I thought it was a awesome looking King and it had some unusually large side windows almost Floridana like or similar to those Pinellas Co., FL Kings. Ill get the pic up on my site soon.

Here is the info from the email reagarding this snake....

I took this yesterday. It was sunning itself in the middle of the road in
the pine barrens in Lacey Township, Ocean County, New Jersey. (I put it in
the woods). I had never seen a King snake in the wild before and found your
site trying to identify it.

Matt Martin, Lacey NJ
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keith - that is pretty neat.

it looks TOO much like a pinellas king.
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Peter Jolles
East Coast Colubrids
www.eastcoastcolubrids.com
peterjolles@eastcoastcolubrids.com

That is too cool Keith! Can't believe an Eastern like that was found up in NJ. Amazing!

Very nice specimen! That's either a P. county escapee (except the lack of yellow pigment) or that is the closest an E. King can come to mimmick a pituophis (Except for a large blotched king I found in S. GA. that actually resembled a S.Pinesnake at first glance, LOL). Nonetheless - Very nice indeed!!! Thanks for posting that one!

Zee

I can't believe it! One very fine snake.

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is becoming clearer by the day that L.g.g. possesses a suite of "non-classic" phenotypes. The pictures from Zee & co. from NC and SC coupled with this guy should put to rest the vehement objections to the Enge/Still line of GAs.

This photo reminds me of the albino line that a few of us are working with in that the band count seems high and the side pattern is seemingly more "aberrant".

The "classic" eastern may only be one phenotype from a much larger array of possible patterning.
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Bob Bull
1.1 L.g.getula MD Locality
2.2 L.g.getula GA locality
1.3 L.g.getula albino
1.2 L.g.getula het albino
1.2 L.g.getula P-het albino
1.3 L.g.floridana "Brooksi"
1.0 L.g.nigrita
1.1 L.t.hondurensis het hypo

You said that about as well as anyone could. Very nice. Good luck on your projects.
DaveB

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Bob Bull
1.1 L.g.getula MD Locality
2.2 L.g.getula GA locality
1.3 L.g.getula albino
1.2 L.g.getula het albino
1.2 L.g.getula P-het albino
1.3 L.g.floridana "Brooksi"
1.0 L.g.nigrita
1.1 L.t.hondurensis het hypo

>>is becoming clearer by the day that L.g.g. possesses a suite of "non-classic" phenotypes. The pictures from Zee & co. from NC and SC coupled with this guy should put to rest the vehement objections to the Enge/Still line of GAs.
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>>This photo reminds me of the albino line that a few of us are working with in that the band count seems high and the side pattern is seemingly more "aberrant".
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>>The "classic" eastern may only be one phenotype from a much larger array of possible patterning.
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>>Bob Bull
>>1.1 L.g.getula MD Locality
>>2.2 L.g.getula GA locality
>>1.3 L.g.getula albino
>>1.2 L.g.getula het albino
>>1.2 L.g.getula P-het albino
>>1.3 L.g.floridana "Brooksi"
>>1.0 L.g.nigrita
>>1.1 L.t.hondurensis het hypo
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What a fine stout sow...not sure I like the contrast as much as you folks do....but a pure thin lined Jersy chain is a sight to behold & Im assuming...these morphs will be available by mid-summer
For a glimse at the finest californiae in the free world...tune in the getulus forum...

John Gunn

That thing is wild looking! Nice blocky bottoms on those chains. I also dig the super high band count on that individual too, must be 50. Very nice. Like Bob said so well down below, people should start to realize the potential for variation in these animals. Just in the last few days we have seen some very awesome and variable eastern kings. Thank you fine folks for sharing.

Will