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First (of many to come) leo home today...

pspguy Jul 12, 2003 08:07 AM

Ok guys, I scoured the Virginia Beach area last night and found what I thought to be a very nice looking leo and I got him/her. 40 dollars, was just right in my opinion, not so inexpensive they would be scared to take care of it, but not so expensive I felt I was getting ripped off. I have a 20L setup in the works, with a small cascading waterfall into a pond at one end, and am currently working the landscape to give her a den which will ultimately end up partially underground (I think, I have a few ideas in the works). I have a 30" strip light with a UV daylight blub and 1 moonlight blub, and am currently working on maybe adding some plants just to accent the tank. Anything else you guys would recommend as must haves? I mean undertank heater? Anything like that? Also I will be posting some pics very soon as I can't tell if its a male or female and the sales people were completely helpless. I think its a female, but I'm pretty new to leos...

Thanks for reading.
Jeff

Replies (6)

Cleopatra Jul 12, 2003 08:13 AM

That would create way too much humdity for the leo, it will get a respiratory problem in no time. All a leo needs is a water bowl and a humid hide when it comes to "water" needs. Live plants will die in a leo tank since they like it so dry and you shouldn't mist the leo's tank again because of their problems with high humidity. Not to mention the leo might get sick if it tries to eat them or if they have oils on their leaves. Fake plants are great though. If you want a tropical environment, you should have gone with a day gecko or a tree frog or something like that. Leos like their setups DRY and pretty bare except for the essentials and maybe a climbing branch.

Cleo
1:1 leos (7 eggs cooking)

pspguy Jul 12, 2003 08:19 AM

Well, I've done alot of reading (I work at a pet store ) and I know which types of plants I'm looking for, which will thrive in the arid climate and dry conditions that aren't poisonous or dangerous to them. I concede your point about the waterfall, however I just can't stand the waterbowl thing.. I'm just weird about that kind of thing, any other options or ideas you can come up with? I just really like a nice looking tank.. and I am also working on a 94gal corner stand for my day geckos.. =)

Jeff

Cleopatra Jul 12, 2003 08:21 AM

But through a water dish. If you can, go out and get one of those nice rock or ceramic water dishes and put fake plants around it...kindof making it look like a desert oasis.

Cleo
1:1 leos (7 eggs cooking)

pspguy Jul 12, 2003 08:22 AM

Oddly enough, a very simple solution that completely eluded me. Thank you so much, I hope things go well with the tail sticking in the egg.. not much help there yet I'm afraid =(

Jeff

Josh06 Jul 12, 2003 08:23 AM

The Waterfall will cause way too much humidity and could result in a repiratory infection for the leo. You NEED a waterbowl, there is really no alternative, Unless the waterfall has like a dish as the base, you could just use that as the waterdish(but dont run the waterfall). You can take your chances with the plants. Also, leos dont need uvb, so you can ditch that. It will more than likely irritate them because of the light.
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MatNga Jul 12, 2003 10:18 AM

My two cents are this:

I know what you mean wanting to a natural as possible vivarium. The sterile environment of paper towels and butter tubs is not appealing to either. That’s for rack set ups when your leos are in tubs and can’t be seen any way.

So let’s talk about setting up your vivarium.

Substrate: depending on the size of your leo you some options. For the smaller guys (under 50g) I would not use sand of any kind. But that doesn’t mean you have to use paper towels. You can use terrarium carpet, out door carpeting (the non looped kind) slate or tiles. I use out door carpet but I may switch to slate soon or calci sand in half the tank and slate in the other half. Another thing I have been thinking of is a mixture of calci sand and real big rocks. I mean rocks as big as the leo it’s self so thee is no chance of ingestion.

For food and water dishes rock type dishes look good but I save my money and what I do is set them down in the substrate so that they are level you don’t see them so it doesn’t matter what they are. So I am with the rest about dumping the water fall. It would create to much humidity and I know this for fact since I am looking at a exoterra water fall in a 29 gal tank with out the fogger on in my iggy tank and it is 75% and will go up to 90% when I turn the fogger on.

For light if you have live plants in the tank which is perfectly ok given the plat doesn’t give off toxin when touched by the leo since I seriously doubt they will be eating on them maybe tongue flick a few times and leave it alone you can put what ever plant you want to that is tacitly safe and will live under the vita light uva/uvb light. If you have no live plants use a regular bulb from home depot. Just to give viewing light. Again what’s the point in keeping the animals if you can’t see them? And the environment they are in. I assume since you said you work at a pet store you get a discount on your stuff, but I would still buy a home depot under counter fluorescent for 6 bucks than pay what ever going pet store price is for a light strip and it comes with a bulb.

For hides there is a ton of hides climbing braches ect that look great you choose and I would not bother with a basking light use an under tank heater and if you need some more heat on the warm side use a heat bulb that emits no light although that doesn’t really matter either if your house is like mine a “meat locker” what I do is use a regular bulb during the day to get the warm side up to temp and just turn it off a nite and the entire tank falls safely to around 70°F but if you do that make sure you not over heating. I have my heat light on one end not directly over the warm hide. And the only reason I have a heat bulb is that my house room temp is about 65 °F so one little 10/20 gal UTH has trouble keeping up even on the floor temps where it matters.

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