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Update on my albino and A big cat as pets question.....

crazy4burm123 May 17, 2005 07:27 PM

Ok well my albino is doin great. I got him at about 30" and in about 2 months he is already 3 1/2 ft. and a girth a little over an inch. Fat little thing. He gets about a small rat a week. I am not going to switch to mediums until he is 4 ft. beacuae the smalls still give him a nice lump for 2 days. He is so tame and still has not struck since i got him. Hissy little thing though. I decided to use a room heater to heat my room to about 78-80 which are his ambients and then he has his hot hide for basking at about 95 degrees. So he is doin great. I am going to build his cage out of melamine wood in early spetember. Is that waterproof? and does it last long?

Anyway this question has nothing to do with this forum but I thought I can get a nice answer here. I am thinking of getting an exotic cat. Nothing large like a tiger or lion. But something nice sized like a serval or lynx maybe a cougar. DOes anyone know of a god place to buy them and which cat is a good house cat and a tame fellow.

thanks a lot for the help
Rob

Replies (25)

Corbin May 17, 2005 09:01 PM

Its good to hear that your burm is doing so well.

As for big cats, I have talkied to people that own many differnet kinds of larges cats and some people that keep strictly one species. Of the smaller cats you listed, in my experience of being around those 3 a little and knowing people who own them I would say the lynx is the best choice of the 3. But big cats are just like snakes, they can never be 100% tame. But just like your burm, if you work with them while they are young, they will be trustworthy enough to keep when they are grown.
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Savvgawd May 17, 2005 10:28 PM

Man your asking for it. You couldn't care for your first burm, so you sold it, got another burm, still ask the same dumb questions, but now decided your ready for a cougar ay? And you've decided a 200 lb cougar is one of the smaller exotic cats? I can tell you are very smart. To feed any of those exotc cats let alone a cougar is REDICULOUS, lbs and lbs of meat every single day, no apartment or townhouse will EVER let you keep one there, people will become afraid, stupid while around it, and end up getting hurt, add all that money up with your burms expenses, cages, FOOOOOD, utility's, ect. Honestly I almost bought a cougar. I finally came around and am SO happy I decided not to. Think about things before you do then, really.

crazy4burm123 May 18, 2005 07:58 PM

I only have 1 burm I never sold any before??? And for your 411 cougars get around 90-120 pounds and I do not live an apartment I live in a Row home. Thanks for the info I think I might try the lynx or bob cat.
Rob

Drosera May 18, 2005 08:56 PM

Well, check your local state/city laws to be sure it's legal. Cat laws tend to be far more stringent than snake laws.
I'd frankly suggest mimicking the technique herpers use for deciding whether or not to keep a venomous snake. Get an insanely skittish/aggressive feral cat from your local shelter and care for it for a year. Train it to walk on lead, come when called, play gently with you and so on. Handle it using wits, never using superior size and strength as you won't be able to do that with a wildcat. Every time the cat draws blood, even in play, calculate what the wound would look like if inflicted by the wildcat of your preferred species. Then calculate what the doctors bill would be, how much physical therapy would be involved, and post a note to that point where you will see it everyday. Cat inflicted injuries are far, far nastier than snake bites.
Then there's the food costs...
Whatever you decide, check out the book "Forest Cats of North America" by Jerry Kobalenko. It doesn't talk about captive care, but covers natural history well and has marvelous pictures.
Frankly, I'd rather have five full grown retics than one bobcat. Easier, less time consuming, safer and cheaper.
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0.1 Normal phase California Kingsnake (Sophia)
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burmaboy May 18, 2005 09:25 PM

ummm...for your 411, the largest cougar ever recorded weighed 227lbs,( 103Kg )
That's a far cry from the 60-90 lbs you mention...as a matter of fact, most yearlings weight between 60-90 lbs.
First burms, now wildcats...

crazy4burm123 May 19, 2005 07:15 PM

Note that you said the LARGEST WAS THAT SIZE....I am in college and my major is big cat training so trust me I know a lot about hose kind of cats just not much about smaller ones....And most cougars never exceed 120 pounds.

Drosera May 19, 2005 11:57 PM

That's a remarkably unusual major. What college are you at that offers it?
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0.1 chickens (Condor)
0.2 dog mutts (half ownership, only mine when they misbehave, Lucy & Amy)
0.1 Halflinger horse (Crissy)
0.1 Normal phase California Kingsnake (Sophia)
1.1 parents
Still searching for 1.0 WC human

crazy4burm123 May 20, 2005 12:16 AM

I go to Delaware community college my major is really hepratology or w/e but i have an internship at the philadelphia zoo and that is what I am training for ,So far I think I like it But it is a lo of hard work So i don;t Know yet I think I might want to persue feild photogrophy.
Rob

jtibbett May 20, 2005 01:19 AM

First of all, Delaware Technical and Community College has no herpetology major. The proof of that is here http://www.dtcc.edu/programs/ (and there is no other Delaware community college - I, unfortunately, live here, and DelTech is the only community college here). Second of all, herpetology has nothing to do with mammals, so even if there was a herpetology program at DelTech, there's no way you could get that internship, assuming it exists. Third, if your major is "big cat training" (that's hysterical, dude, seriously), or you even have experience with big cats, why are you asking people in a burmese python forum for advice instead of asking people AT THE FREAKING ZOO? You're just not telling the truth. It's plain as day. It's really funny, though. I still recommend the tiger. I'm telling you, they're just big house cats. You probably already have some tigers, though, and you just want something smaller, right?

AlteredMind99 May 20, 2005 12:56 PM

Oh my goodness. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you lie so much, and so poorly too. If you plan to try and lead people and decieve them and lie to them at least be good enough and at least i would have picked a school that acutally offered the major you claim to have!

HAHAHA. Too funny....
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scubaqueen May 18, 2005 09:35 PM

I own a couple of genets,and they make great house cats.
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AlteredMind99 May 19, 2005 12:46 PM

I think the best idea would be to go ahead and get a feral cat and try to tame it. Cats can be nasty but a feral cat attack won't kill you so you can get experience with taming without the risks and dangerous of a large cat.
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0.0.1 Reverse Okeetee Corn
0.1 Bullmastiff
4.1 Cats

RuHigh May 19, 2005 03:32 PM

Let me see a cougar in a row home,..........Help my cat ate my neighbors kid!!!!

I hate to rain on your parade, but it's just not a good idea.What are you going to do, keep it in a small cage? what about exercise, and as said above what about the food,vet,and the overall cost.

And you still need your permits, not easy to get, In fact from what I have found online Florida has stopped issuing them, like years ago. I don't know where you are but I bet they aint easy to get. If your thinking about getting one with out a permit you might as well go to the jail now and save the money.

A big cat in a row house, I kinda think you posted that just for fun, I mean do you really think that would be ok?

Have a good day

crazy4burm123 May 19, 2005 07:18 PM

Thanks everyone for your hjelp....and iI would not think to start with a cougar that was just a suggestion....I know they are not house cats....My reserve is going to let me care for a tame serval for 3 months and let me see how I like it...If i do I think i will start it off with a bob cat, maybe a Lynx.

jtibbett May 19, 2005 07:03 PM

Dude, you should get a tiger. A BIG one. Don't buy all that media silliness about them seriously injuring their owners so that they have to be airlifted to the hospital, and law enforcement agencies having to come out and try somehow to control the giant, ferocious beasts. It's just alarmist propaganda. Tigers are cool looking, they'll guard your home, and they'll even play with your friendly neighborhood policemen, like this:

Ruhigh May 19, 2005 09:07 PM

I bet that cop was happy.

What a waste of tax money and the cop's time. I wonder how many people got killed why the cops were dealing with some dumba$$ who thought he could keep a big cat in an apartment.

Have a better day then that cop did.

burmaboy May 20, 2005 07:22 AM

RuHigh...
Now you know what we were taling about...the other KS handles that we thought you might be.
It just gets weirder and weirder.
One thing about the burm forum...and it has gotten worser lately...
is that everyone buys a burm, and then comes into the forum to find out how to care for it.
Now their doing that with Tigers..lololol
And the really bad part of it all, is they give advice here!
Two months of burm experience, and they're experts!
And they cant even spell Herpetology...and it's their college major.
Yet we continue to answer this person's posts. We've nobody to blame but ourselves...but it makes for good entertainment.

AlteredMind99 May 20, 2005 12:58 PM

Lol...did your ead the above post...that college doesnt even offer herpetology!!!
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0.0.1 Reverse Okeetee Corn
0.1 Bullmastiff
4.1 Cats

RuHigh May 20, 2005 03:32 PM

Yea, I see what you'r saying, I don't feel good about being confused with this kid, but atleast you know I'm not him.

I read the post about his schooling, it was kinda cool. I'm from Del. moved to fl 20 years ago but my famly is still up there. In fact my uncle owns an insurance agency in newark. He told me NO WAY would he insure a home with a big cat in it, way too much risk.

Anyway this kid is not going to get a cat, I just think he like to get everyone going... and if he does I bet he will find it a little hard to post from a cat's gut.

have a good day!

AlteredMind99 May 20, 2005 03:42 PM

yeah i agree. it just worries me that someone immautre enough to make up all these identities and lies actually owns animals....

Other than that its actually pretty funny
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1.0.2 Leopard Gecko's
0.0.1 Rose Hair Tarantula
1.0 BTS
0.0.1 Reverse Okeetee Corn
0.1 Bullmastiff
4.1 Cats

burmaboy May 20, 2005 10:49 PM

Do they offer advanced degrees in "Big Cat"? Like a Masters of Big Cat? Doctorate of Really Big Cat?
Big Cat Training Degree??? What school is this?
University of Barnum and Bailey?

AlteredMind99 May 21, 2005 05:54 PM

funny, he hasn't tried to defend himself yet?
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0.1 mexican kingsnake
1.0.2 Leopard Gecko's
0.0.1 Rose Hair Tarantula
1.0 BTS
0.0.1 Reverse Okeetee Corn
0.1 Bullmastiff
4.1 Cats

rich-k May 21, 2005 08:25 PM

Hey crazy4burm, You wouldn't believe it but I have a saber tooth cat in my backyard. The government doesn't know so don't let this leave the forum alright guys. Anyway, they are easier to tame than a bobcat or a tiger. Shoot me an email if your interested, I know a breeder thats got albino babys! BullS***@jurasic.net
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burmaboy May 21, 2005 09:36 PM

WOW!! A Saber Tooth! I learned how to care for those by taking a classes at the University of Bedrock!
We have tried, and tried to get this young 'un to come around, but it just aint happening...
He just wont listen...just wont take advice...much like the big cats...a leopard never changes his spots.
Or something like that.

zach_whitman Jun 06, 2005 10:57 AM

I don't know about all the bull[bleep] going on with this post about exotic cat training majors ect. But I do know that savanah cats are an awesome choice for anyone looking to have a small exotic cat in the family. Savanahs are a hybrid between a serval and a bengal cat. (so really a three way hybrid of the serval, asian leopard cat, and housecat) They stay under 20 pounds and behave just like a really fast, high jumping, AND ENDLESSLY MORE MISCHIEVIOUS house cat.

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