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I’m not as up to date on my Insular Boas as I should be, but I was under the impression that the Hog Island Boa no longer existed in the wild? I thought that the island had be declared void of these animals from over collection and that there is no longer a wild population.
If that is indeed true, how is it that I have seen 3 different dealers advertise “No blood Lines” of Hogg Island Boas. One has even go so far as to state that they were recently imported?
Can any one clear this up for me?
Thanks
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

Could the dealers be refering to importing from another country such as Germany?

new imports? I saw that and just shook my head "whaaa...??"
Maybe a big rock was overturned on the island and a hidden
underground cavern was found where a self-sustaining population of Hog Isle boas was discovered that subsisted only on worms
and... oh... nevermind.

haha

On the whole Hog Isle front, I was wondering what morphs are
there that are true Hog Isle morphs? I have seen the patternless
in the classifieds and a guy I just met here in town says he
has striped hog isles from two pure hog isle parents (I am
hoping to go see these over the next week or so..).

TGIF!!!!!

I heard a rumor a few months ago that someone had found some Hog Island boas on the island itself, and to get around export protection laws, labelled them "columbian" or plain BCI and got away with it. Not sure how true that is, I think it's shady if it is true - just for the sake of new blood to export from endangered wild stock.... yuck.

I had read on this forum a few monthe back that scientist have beed finding wild H.I. boas on the island at a rate of one per week. They are still there witch is good. As far as "new blood" Im not sure, I think they would cut your head off if you were caught taking them off the island. LOL I have no proof if this is true but Im sure someone else can help you with that. Later

-Dylan
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True Redtails

some had speculated that the reports of long ago were incorrect, and there were still wild hog island boas on the island
(that some were 'missed' during initial counts and they eventually repopulated / and also that this was impossible due to the virtual devastation of their habitat long ago)

i've even heard of extremely similar insular species from the surrounding islands eventually making there way over to the 'main' island and breeding

i've heard that these are imported from the islands surrounding the 'main' island

i've heard that ALL the surrounding islands, and there are quite a few, are collectively known as cayos cochinos... after all, cayos cochinos is plural. cayo cohino would be singular.
This would indicate that there are plenty of thriving 'hog island' boas remaining within this collective group of keys or kays.. whatever they would call them. It would also shed light as to why some Hogs look so different than others... size, color

i've also heard of scam artists making really old, ugly hog crosses available, and calling them the 'new blood'... after all, most of these adults i've seen are quite large.. 5-6' or so

i've even heard of the goverment granting one person/doctor/herp guy permission to collect a few 'one time only', and these are some of those, or direct descendants..

so there's my '$.02' Jim..

hope this helps.... somewhat!

(Clear as MUD, right? lol)

Best wishes on healthy big, litters this year..

take care, Joe Rollo - Bci Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

In order to avoid a absloute war ( like the last thread ), I'll keep this short and simple. They are from what I understand legally imported with all the CITIES paperwork. Take it for what it is worth, some people think something illegal was involved, others don't. They went through MIA and the FWC didn't have any problems with it. I will say this though, many animals were thought to be extinct at one time and then appear a few years later. Nature at its finest

Well i am 100% certain that it was done illegally since they imported them through Ecuador as "White Boas" and it is complete BS! The animals manage to dig themselves out of the verge of extinction and these greedy aholes want to profit from them and drive them back to it.
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Jeff West