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Lemon Cow Sucker Update!!

KE Jul 12, 2003 02:23 PM

Well, Here is my yearling pink-eyed lemon cow sucker!!(mouthfull)

As you can see, and if you remember last year's pics, this snake has turned bright yellow!! I rebred the double hets and ended up with a clutch of eight eggs that are hatching right now. It appears that I have produced yet another morph this year which I will post pics of next week! I also have three other eggs that the female laid last month out of the blue. I also bred my Dixie Dumpling male(original founder to the lemon line) to a normal female collected from the same area in the same county and hatched 18 eggs from that pairing this week. I'll post pics of those hets as well. They are indeed hets as my Dixie Dumpling proved to be a recessive trait carrier when I crossed him with the amel female to found the Lemon line. I will be out of town for the weekend and will respond to posts on Tuesday or Wednesday. Enjoy the pics!!! K.E.
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Replies (10)

Hurley Jul 12, 2003 04:02 PM

I'm going to plead complete ignorance here, so humor me.

Just have a couple questions for anyone who wants to enlighten me:

1) What is a cow sucker?
2) What are the 2 het genes being referred to in this post?
3) What is the genotype of a 'lemon' cowsucker?
4) What is a "Dixie Dumpling"? Genotype?
5) Is this all about one gene /- the albino gene or ?

Thanks for any help. Nice snake. I'd like to see representative pics of normal cowsuckers, albinos, and this "Dixie Dumpling" if anyone has any, just for my own knowledge.

Hurley

As you can see, and if you remember last year's pics, this snake has turned bright yellow!! I rebred the double hets and ended up with a clutch of eight eggs that are hatching right now. It appears that I have produced yet another morph this year which I will post pics of next week! I also have three other eggs that the female laid last month out of the blue. I also bred my Dixie Dumpling male(original founder to the lemon line) to a normal female collected from the same area in the same county and hatched 18 eggs from that pairing this week. I'll post pics of those hets as well. They are indeed hets as my Dixie Dumpling proved to be a recessive trait carrier when I crossed him with the amel female to found the Lemon line. I will be out of town for the weekend and will respond to posts on Tuesday or Wednesday.
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~~~Hurley

Terry Cox Jul 12, 2003 05:23 PM

...I'll play.

1. I believe the cow sucker is a black ratsnake, if I remember correctly.

2. One of the het. genes must be amelanism of some sort, because he refers to the Dixie Dumpling(m) as a recessive gene carrier, paired with an amel.(f) producing the lemon line, which would have to be an amelanistic line, if all the babies were lemon(or other amel.)
3. So, I would say the genotype of a lemon cowsucker is amelanism.

4. The Dixie Dumpling(m) has to be amelanism.

5. What the other het. is, I have no clue. Sounds like all about amelanism to me, but maybe a different amel. gene than what we're used to. And I believe there always has been two, hasn't there?

PS: By dbl. hets. he might have been referring to the fact that the male was this lemon color and the female was a normal amel.

Terry

I'm going to plead complete ignorance here, so humor me.

Just have a couple questions for anyone who wants to enlighten me:

1) What is a cow sucker?
2) What are the 2 het genes being referred to in this post?
3) What is the genotype of a 'lemon' cowsucker?
4) What is a "Dixie Dumpling"? Genotype?
5) Is this all about one gene /- the albino gene or ?

Thanks for any help. Nice snake. I'd like to see representative pics of normal cowsuckers, albinos, and this "Dixie Dumpling" if anyone has any, just for my own knowledge.

Hurley

As you can see, and if you remember last year's pics, this snake has turned bright yellow!! I rebred the double hets and ended up with a clutch of eight eggs that are hatching right now. It appears that I have produced yet another morph this year which I will post pics of next week! I also have three other eggs that the female laid last month out of the blue. I also bred my Dixie Dumpling male(original founder to the lemon line) to a normal female collected from the same area in the same county and hatched 18 eggs from that pairing this week. I'll post pics of those hets as well. They are indeed hets as my Dixie Dumpling proved to be a recessive trait carrier when I crossed him with the amel female to found the Lemon line. I will be out of town for the weekend and will respond to posts on Tuesday or Wednesday.
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~~~Hurley

Dwight Good Jul 12, 2003 08:33 PM

>>1. I believe the cow sucker is a black ratsnake, if I remember correctly.

At least you got one right,

NEVER DOUBT THE K.E.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL!

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Dwight Good
http://www.kingsnake.com/obsoleta

cka Jul 13, 2003 09:56 AM

...'cuz up here around the Mason Dixon "cowsuckers" referred to eastern milksnakes...Local superstition...since they were found around barns farmers blamed them when they had a cow that was a poor milk producer :*)...peace...Chris

draybar Jul 13, 2003 04:31 PM

>>...'cuz up here around the Mason Dixon "cowsuckers" referred to eastern milksnakes...Local superstition...since they were found around barns farmers blamed them when they had a cow that was a poor milk producer :*)...peace...Chris

I don't know about the southern thing because I live in Souteast Tennessee an I had always heard that milksnakes were named this because farmers thought they were sucking their "bad" milk cows dry.
This also lead to the related "cowsucker" nick name.
oh well, why not just call it what it is?
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Jimmy (draybar)

bluerosy Jul 14, 2003 02:18 PM

Oopla! Achtung, achtung! Ich versteh nichts? Jetzt habe ich keine interest in diener hezliche slange.

draybar Jul 16, 2003 05:47 PM

>>Oopla! Achtung, achtung! Ich versteh nichts? Jetzt habe ich keine interest in diener hezliche slange.
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Jimmy (draybar)

cka Jul 16, 2003 07:22 PM

which must be a German slang term...guess he feels the post is off topic? Who knows :*

Hotshot Jul 17, 2003 11:49 AM

Actually schlange in german is snake. So he says he has no interest in your ugly snake.

I think the snakes K.E. has posted are all pretty kick ass!!
Brian

cka Jul 17, 2003 11:12 PM

hehe thanks hotshot, i know zippy German...went to a free translator site...I agree thats a wild looking looking blackrat he's got...peace Chris

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