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I emailed you with some ?? about Skippy (ACF). On top of it she has not eaten for at least 4 or 5 days(!) and I am getting really worried. Will try you on yahoo forum, too. Need advice!! :-/

thanks,
lele
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0.1 Veiled - Luna
1.0 Beardie - Darwin
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta
0.1 African Clawed Frog - Skipper
0.3 Mad. Hissers (2 died ;(
0.1 Chilean Rose Hair Tarantula - Rosa Leigh
0.1 Goliath Bird-Eater Tarantula - Natasha

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Hope everything is ok with him!

Erin
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1:0 Veiled (Gene)
1:0 Sambava Panther (Knoxville)
1:1 Albino Clawed Frogs (Phedre and Jos)
?? Fire belly toad (Harold)
Various cats and dogs

Hi Erin,

I had forgotten that you have ACF. She (yup, he's a girl ) has nopt eaten for a few days (like 4 or 5) and I am worried. She has always had a good appetite and comes to one of two places that she always feeds from. I never leave uneaten food in there. I think the last thing she ate was a small silkie, which I have given her before with no problem. She normally get the Reptomin pellets. Any ideas? I think Rachel must be on vacation b/c she is usually on this, the ACF forum or will reply by email.

thanks!
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0.1 Veiled - Luna
1.0 Beardie - Darwin
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta
0.1 African Clawed Frog - Skipper
0.3 Mad. Hissers (2 died ;(
0.1 Chilean Rose Hair Tarantula - Rosa Leigh
0.1 Goliath Bird-Eater Tarantula - Natasha

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Has the tank changed at all? The temps outside/water temp? I noticed mine has been in the mid 80's the past couple of days when I left my light on, which they dont like at all.

Another food staple you can try (if you dont have any already) would be the bloodworm packets? Im pretty sure you can pick them up at Walmart. My girls love them. You can try some other type of feeder to get her attention maybe and see if that works? Let a cricket swim around and see if she might go after that. *knock on wood* Never had too many difficulties with mine except them being skittish, so ive never gone through this.

I dont know if this would be an issue, but the females can (and do EVERYWHERE) lay eggs even without a Male present. Im not sure if that would prompt an eating strike before laying, but maybe an idea.

Also are there any new marks or redness that you have noticed? Im sorry I wish I could be more help. But hopefully Rachel will answer you back and give ya some better advice!

Good luck!

Erin
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1:0 Veiled (Gene)
1:0 Sambava Panther (Knoxville)
1:1 Albino Clawed Frogs (Phedre and Jos)
?? Fire belly toad (Harold)
Various cats and dogs

hey! i got your email and i tried to email you back, but once again i got my email returned to me......hrmmm, i dont think my server likes your email. i have no clue why they wont go through! let me copy and paste my reply for you

rachel
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4.3 African Clawed Frog
3.3 Calfornia Newt
0.1 Leucistic Texas Ratsnake
1.1 Veiled Chameleon
0.1 Albino Cranwells Horned Frog
0.1 Paddle Tail Newt
0.1 Green Iguana
0.5.0 Indonesian Floating Frog

hey lele!

congrats on permantly keeping skippy you will absolutely fall in love with
ACF i rescue and rehome them quite often as well too, so if you ever want
another, just let me know

a whisper 20-40 will be fine on a 10 gal. tank for the time being and will be
adequte enough for a 20 gallon long tank housing up to 3 frogs.

advanced power filters are basically the same thing, just diffrent filter
cartridges (and price tags).

those small junior heaters are only for 2-5 gallons i think (maybe they go as
high as 10 gallons) and are only 7 watts. there is a rule of thumb regarding
wattage per gallons of water but icant remember it right off the bat, but
either way, the heater will be too small for a 10 gallon tank. and also, the
frogs really do well in warmer water at all. even if the temp is
fluxuating like that. they do best in cooler water, even if you think its too
cool for them. my house gets very cold and drafty during winter time, and my
frog tanks stays around 63F at the lowest! and my frogs do just fine at this
temp, i just feed them much less then normal since their bodies are in a
winter state. regardless of heater or not, you do not want the temp. to climb
past 73 F, so use a thermometer and watch it closly. oh, also, frogs can
easily burn themselves on the heaters too. so you'll need to get those plastic
heater guards if u decide to use one, which i strongly suggest not doing. they
don't need heated water.

i used river rocks for a few months. and they trap more dirt and debris then
the actual gravel itself and are a pain to clean. i would avoid them unless
your really have the time to clean them. a gravel i have been working with now
is the smallest gravel i have ever seen! it is called "Walnut Shell" and is a
small brown natural stone, smaller then a pea! easy to clean with a syphon,
traps less then larger stones, and is very easily passed incase injested. your
petstore should be able to order it for you, i'm in the process of switching
all my aquatic tanks over to it.

let me know what you decide to do!

btw, how is Luna? i've been ofline for a few days now....

rachel

ps. oh btw, not eating for some time is NORMAL. sometimes my frogs will "fast" for a month or so before deciding to eat! this usually happens when you switch tanks, change decor, move them, breed them, etc. these frogs are totally adapted and hardy, which is why they are so invasive and illegal in 13 states...they can survive for weeks to months without food. so trust me, skippy isnt giong to starve teaching a frog to eat from the surface takes some time. try turning off the light and filter first and then offer some food. make little taps on the top of the tank and water surface with your fingers to attract his attention as well. this always worked when training my frogs to surface feed. you can also intice him to eat by using a "stinky" food such as beefheart or bloodworms. but use these sparingly as frogs can get dependent on them and refuse better foods (reptomin). also bloodworms can cause acute bloat (article on my site under diseases page). also, make sure he has plenty of hiding spots and that you turn off the light at night for him. they can be skittish and need to feel secure. keep in touch! let me know how it goes.
In Depth Information On Common Aquatic Frogs

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4.3 African Clawed Frog
3.3 Calfornia Newt
0.1 Leucistic Texas Ratsnake
1.1 Veiled Chameleon
0.1 Albino Cranwells Horned Frog
0.1 Paddle Tail Newt
0.1 Green Iguana
0.5.0 Indonesian Floating Frog

Thanks for all of the info! I am going to email you from a different email address (so we don;t get banished from the cham forum b/c we are discussing frogs! lol!!) and see if you can get thru on that one. It will have "tiarella" in the address so make sure I am not filtered out!

>>hey lele!
>>
>>congrats on permantly keeping skippy you will absolutely fall in love with
>>ACF i rescue and rehome them quite often as well too, so if you ever want
>>another, just let me know
>>
>>a whisper 20-40 will be fine on a 10 gal. tank for the time being and will be
>>adequte enough for a 20 gallon long tank housing up to 3 frogs.
>>
>>advanced power filters are basically the same thing, just diffrent filter
>>cartridges (and price tags).
>>
>>those small junior heaters are only for 2-5 gallons i think (maybe they go as
>>high as 10 gallons) and are only 7 watts. there is a rule of thumb regarding
>>wattage per gallons of water but icant remember it right off the bat, but
>>either way, the heater will be too small for a 10 gallon tank. and also, the
>>frogs really do well in warmer water at all. even if the temp is
>>fluxuating like that. they do best in cooler water, even if you think its too
>>cool for them. my house gets very cold and drafty during winter time, and my
>>frog tanks stays around 63F at the lowest! and my frogs do just fine at this
>>temp, i just feed them much less then normal since their bodies are in a
>>winter state. regardless of heater or not, you do not want the temp. to climb
>>past 73 F, so use a thermometer and watch it closly. oh, also, frogs can
>>easily burn themselves on the heaters too. so you'll need to get those plastic
>>heater guards if u decide to use one, which i strongly suggest not doing. they
>>don't need heated water.
>>
>>i used river rocks for a few months. and they trap more dirt and debris then
>>the actual gravel itself and are a pain to clean. i would avoid them unless
>>your really have the time to clean them. a gravel i have been working with now
>>is the smallest gravel i have ever seen! it is called "Walnut Shell" and is a
>>small brown natural stone, smaller then a pea! easy to clean with a syphon,
>>traps less then larger stones, and is very easily passed incase injested. your
>>petstore should be able to order it for you, i'm in the process of switching
>>all my aquatic tanks over to it.
>>
>>let me know what you decide to do!
>>
>>btw, how is Luna? i've been ofline for a few days now....
>>
>>rachel
>>
>>ps. oh btw, not eating for some time is NORMAL. sometimes my frogs will "fast" for a month or so before deciding to eat! this usually happens when you switch tanks, change decor, move them, breed them, etc. these frogs are totally adapted and hardy, which is why they are so invasive and illegal in 13 states...they can survive for weeks to months without food. so trust me, skippy isnt giong to starve teaching a frog to eat from the surface takes some time. try turning off the light and filter first and then offer some food. make little taps on the top of the tank and water surface with your fingers to attract his attention as well. this always worked when training my frogs to surface feed. you can also intice him to eat by using a "stinky" food such as beefheart or bloodworms. but use these sparingly as frogs can get dependent on them and refuse better foods (reptomin). also bloodworms can cause acute bloat (article on my site under diseases page). also, make sure he has plenty of hiding spots and that you turn off the light at night for him. they can be skittish and need to feel secure. keep in touch! let me know how it goes.
>>In Depth Information On Common Aquatic Frogs
>>
>>-----
>>4.3 African Clawed Frog
>>3.3 Calfornia Newt
>>0.1 Leucistic Texas Ratsnake
>>1.1 Veiled Chameleon
>>0.1 Albino Cranwells Horned Frog
>>0.1 Paddle Tail Newt
>>0.1 Green Iguana
>>0.5.0 Indonesian Floating Frog
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0.1 Veiled Chameleon - Luna
1.0 Beardie - Darwin
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta
0.1 African Clawed Frog - Skipper
0.3 Mad. Hissers (2 died ;(
0.1 Chilean Rose Hair Tarantula - Rosa Leigh
0.1 Goliath Bird-Eater Tarantula - Natasha

Chameleon Help & Resource Info