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Below I have posted pics of the hatchlings from the '05 Tiger x Jag clutch after their fist shed. After carefully studying their characteristics, I have divided them into a few different categories: Tiger-Jags, Jags (including Hypos), Siblings, and Siblings with minor Tiger influence.

There are three I would consider true Tiger-Jags, and they all look like the one we produced last year. Most notably, they have incredible dorsal stripes, beautiful copper/red pattern that fades toward the tail, extremely light and clean ground color, reduced pattern, & orange eyes. I think these animals represent a beautiful blend of the two morphs.

Tiger-Jags (I think the top one is my absolute favorite!)

This one appears to be a Tiger with Jaguar influence. I think Collin said it best; "Looks like the ends of two different snakes were put together, lol."

Jaguars
There are definitely some exquisite Jaguars in this clutch. While most of them are striped, and some have reduced patterns, ...I would not consider these to be actual "Tiger-Jags."

These two look pretty similar to the Tiger-Jags, but they have slightly different/darker colors -- and if you look closely their patterns are a little different, too.

I love this one! ...so clean!!! The white "ovals" going down the laterals are quite unique (Tiger?).

Siblings
It's amazing to me how many of the Siblings have stripes.

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Will Leary
Reptilicus Reptiles
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'04 Tiger-Jag after her 1st shed for comparison...

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Will Leary
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what makes a tiger jaguar different? I think ur the first in to breed tiger to jaguar but ive seen other jaguars that look just like what ur calling tiger x jaguars. how can u tell they really have both traits?? just curious.

As many of you may remember, last year we hatched 3 eggs from the first ever Tiger x Jaguar clutch, and one of the offspring was a "Jaguar." I instantly noticed this Jaguar was very different from any of the others we produced that same year. The colors were extremely light (copper/red and peach), and the pattern was greatly reduced and faded toward the tail. It also had a huge dorsal stripe and bright eyes. I thought to myself, is it possible this is the "Tiger-Jag"? It sure looked like it, but I couldn't say for sure because of the extremely low hatch rate.

This year we tried again and successfully hatched 14 of the 19 eggs (1 egg went bad during incubation, 3 were stillborn and 1 died soon after hatching -- all but one were normal siblings). So, we now have a pretty clear picture of what this particular breeding is capable of. Within this clutch, 3 of the hatchlings look identical to the one we hatched last year (Tiger-Jags), 5 are Jaguars (some with minor Tiger characteristics), 1 appears to be 3/4 Tiger and 1/4 Jaguar, and the rest are siblings (some with obvious Tiger influence).

Here is a photo of the '04 Tiger-Jag and an photo of an '05 Tiger-Jag for comparison (both after their first shed):

I am now convinced that this appearance is the desired "Tiger-Jag," and with good reason. I have also confirmed this with other well respected Carpet breeders.

Another thing that makes these guys so special is their incredibly clean color, which I feel is a direct result of both the Red Hypo sire and the Tiger dam. Since Tigers already have excellent color (they are a pattern and color mutation), they make an excellent breeding match for the Jags. I think the end result is quite unique.

This is a two year old regular Jaguar:

Notice the color and black tipping, both commonly seen in Classic/Regular Jaguars.

Here is a close-up shot of the a two year old Hypo Jaguar:

If you look closely, the raised portions of the scales are darker. This is fairly common in Hypo Jaguars and creates a slighty (for lack of a better term) dirty appearance.

Now compare to the yearling Tiger-Jag:

The scales are really clean. And regarding actual color, this snake is also more of a light lemon yellow in person, which unfortunately doesn't seem to come thru in the pics very well. Nevertheless, I think the color will continue to intensify over the next year. I think these three pics clearly demonstrate my point.

Hope I've answered your question.
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Will Leary
Reptilicus Reptiles
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In addition to everything Will pointed out, the Tiger Jags have a wide area of zero pattern on their backs (essentially the wide light colored stripe from the Tiger influence) and that their side patterns connect in several places? The main thing is that they do carry both traits. While there may be similar Jaguars out there (I have one that's somewhat similar), they don't carry the Tiger trait and will not be able to pass it onto their offspring like the Tiger Jag will.

The differences might be subtle, but when the Tiger Jags are bred, the difference in their resulting offspring will be quite apparent.

>>what makes a tiger jaguar different? I think ur the first in to breed tiger to jaguar but ive seen other jaguars that look just like what ur calling tiger x jaguars. how can u tell they really have both traits?? just curious.
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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

>>Below I have posted pics of the hatchlings from the '05 Tiger x Jag clutch after their fist shed. After carefully studying their characteristics, I have divided them into a few different categories: Tiger-Jags, Jags (including Hypos), Siblings, and Siblings with minor Tiger influence.
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Anthony Caponetto
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Beautiful animals Will ! I especially like the jaguars . I will definitely try to get a pair from you when I can afford it. Keep up the good work , Bill