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I've noticed people offering these fine Yellow Chondos on here. The Canary islands are off of Spain, what a migration pattern the virdis are taking these days,lol lmao.

I am very curious to see how these will develope in the next few months in captivity. Gotta wonder one thing, The price, i've seen them for as low as 950 and as hi as 13,500 for a pair.

Cheers just thought i would offer my 2 cents.

The snakes you are seeing advertised are reportedly coming from Kaifu Island in Indonesia. The term Canary has nothing to do with the Canary Islands, but more in deference to the "canary yellow" coloration of this locale.

Many of the snakes imported as solid yellow canarys are indeed turning green, although they do still exhibit different phenotype and it remains to be seen what this locale will do when fully mature/acclimated/and reproduced.

The cost of some of the initial "Canarys" was upwards of 20k per snake!! The initial investors probably had no idea there would be so many of these snakes to follow. The island that they have been harvested from is reportedly being deforested and nobody that I know of has definitive answer as to the future status of this same locale's future in it's native habitat.

Thanks for theh reply, I know that teehy are refering to teeh color, however a few people are selling them as Canary Island Chondros Just thought it was funny, Goes to show that people should research before they own anything.

It is a sad day that they are destroying the island.

Cheers.....

I think Canary refers to their appearance, not their place of origin. They are from an island that starts with a K in Indoneisa. From what I have read some change to green, some dont, but I am no expert at all.

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LOL. I think Cathy hit the nail on the head. IMHO, I don't think the "canary" yellow specimens have been in captivity long enough to determine whether or not they'll stay yellow.....despite the claims of a few. These have been coming in a few at a time over the last 7-10 years and I've yet to see one of those that are still yellow. I'm with the rest of the gang though. I hope some do end up as gold adults.

Brandon Osborne

If "YOU" actually beleive that this particular **race** of chondros are in fact from the Canary Islands, I guess the joke is on you. This particular race of chondros have been around now for well over three years..maybe four, but only to a very small select group of private breeders...A good number of these are still yellow after this time as well. The labeled phrase, Canary Island, was coined as a joke to throw off various people as to their true origin. Unfortunately for some, this coined name stuck and has many people, like yourself asking such questions or mocking the phrase.

Regarding your price observation....much like any purchases there are those that scam and there those that are reputable. There are a varying number of animals that outwardly "mimmic" the high yellow appearance of these Ultra yellow chondros.....back to your price observations....take a look around at chondro prices in general..they range from $75 on up to $25K each!!!!! clearly there must be a difference in these chondros, eh?

Rich Culver

Ouch Rich.......... we felling a little snappy this morning.
I was simply stating the fact the people are actually selling these as "Canary Island" and the misrepensentation to lead people to believe these beautiful anmals come from the Canary Islands, which if you read are off the coast of Spain. I am very well aware of these beautiful "morphs" and have been seeing them pop up of the last 3 years, it hasn't been until recently that then are coming in which regards to the numbers that they are. I hope these animals do in fact stay there bright yellow for years to come. i just think it is a shame to have people out there trying to pull the wool over niave peoples eyes and try to make a quick buck, it's those people that give the buyers itchy wallets and less likely to purchase becasue they have been burned. This which leads us to the pricing issue. I would rather spend a few extra bucks and buy from a reputable breeder than a joe shhhhmoe tryign to make a quick buck. Not to mention if i'm looking for a particular pattern or varing degree of color difference , hell yea i'll pay more for it. wouldn't you?

Oh yea, i thought it was funny that the viridis have taken such a large migration pattern. It was meant to make a few people smile who knew what i was referring too.

sorry to have been mocked, i'll go retreat to my humble "Canary Island" chondros.....

Hey Rubbadadolphin,
I sincerely apologize if it sounded as if i were a bit harsh, for in noway was it my intension. Such is yet another negative aspect of reading true meaning from text alone. So once again, I aplogize if it sounded as such

Regarding the various price spectrum on these chondros--there are some differences in them, and many people who have taken a significant amount of time to carefully evaluate them have noticed numerous morphological differences (aside from simple coloration, and health observations). These differences seem to be so clear, that some people believe they can get a fairly good **guesss** on whether or not they will in fact retain their yellow coloration into adulthood. A number of factors dictate the various prices noted on these chondros...much like "high end" designers. But generally speaking, health and over all condition of the animals is a major initial difference. As for the spike in their availability goes....seems to me that those still on the market and those that came into the open market were in fact "left overs".....

RCulver

well i have read that the name Canary was used to hide the location... if they called them by the localty they would have been snatched up quickly... because everyone would have known where they were... the people that were bringing them in must be a little on the smart side...
also... i have a theory...
i believe that this yellow coloration has to do with that food it was eating... or rather its foods food... much like poison arrow frogs... i have just recently learned that poison arrow frogs are not poisonus in captivity... they get their poison from the things that eat... well i think that the reason that some of these guys are turning green is because the food source has changed... now i dont own any of these canarys yet... nor do i have much to hang my theory on... but i dont think i am off too far in my theory if at all...
if anyone woudl like to hear more about my theory please ask and i'll try to BS my way to an answer... cuz as i said i have nothing to base this off of...

flame away...

Shiloh

>>Hey Rubbadadolphin,
>>I sincerely apologize if it sounded as if i were a bit harsh, for in noway was it my intension. Such is yet another negative aspect of reading true meaning from text alone. So once again, I aplogize if it sounded as such
>>
>>Regarding the various price spectrum on these chondros--there are some differences in them, and many people who have taken a significant amount of time to carefully evaluate them have noticed numerous morphological differences (aside from simple coloration, and health observations). These differences seem to be so clear, that some people believe they can get a fairly good **guesss** on whether or not they will in fact retain their yellow coloration into adulthood. A number of factors dictate the various prices noted on these chondros...much like "high end" designers. But generally speaking, health and over all condition of the animals is a major initial difference. As for the spike in their availability goes....seems to me that those still on the market and those that came into the open market were in fact "left overs".....
>>
>>RCulver

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Shiloh Hawkesworth
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